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Prospect - UK: Breeding for God
Posted by: 3dc || 10/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The modern western world is inseparable from the idea of secularisation. From Socrates's refusal to acknowledge the Greek gods to Copernicus's heretical idea that the earth revolved around the sun to the French revolution's overthrow of religious authority, the path of modernity seemed to lead away from the claims of religion.

It occurs to me that this sounds like an attempt by the materialists to claim Socrates and Copernicus as their own; you'd think they could be bothered to find out that Socrates felt differently, at least as far as Plato relates:

The Apology of Socrates.

Copernicus, I think, was a Polish monk...

A lot of the real freedom the author of the piece enjoyed growing up, I am beginning to think, was due to people who actually believed in right and wrong, if not in the definitions thereof during the times they lived, and not people who didn't believe in right-and-wrong at all.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 10/30/2006 1:18 Comments || Top||

#2  The modern western world is inseparable from the idea of secularisation

What is the point of reading morons, posing as intellectuals, who set as their premise a statement so void of historical knowledge that it is laughable. Go back to Jr. High school, twit and come back when you have a clue.
Posted by: Clkethel OHlkdj || 10/30/2006 5:37 Comments || Top||

#3  I agree with you AB. The notion that modernism equals results from or equals secularism is just invented history.

I won't bore you with a lecture on the history of ideas, but IMO the modern world originated with the Reformation which was about how you worship God being your own business. Many modernizers were deeply religous, Darwin and Mendel come to mind.

Many of the social issues we take for granted today, from emancipation of slaves through to enfranchisment of women were pioneered by deeply religous people/groups. As I said, invented history.

Otherwise the author's demographic explanation of the rise of religions is valid. And note the implied argument that secularisation is a more important/potent force than demographics and hence the secularized non-breeders have nothing to worry about.

Disclaimer: I'm an athiest.
Posted by: phil_b || 10/30/2006 5:54 Comments || Top||

#4  to the French revolution's overthrow of religious authority

"religious authority", IE catholicism and christianity was soon replaced by the cult of the State, the first in a long line ending (?) up with the nazis, and the bolsheviks and their later spawns all over the world... and this cult perdures even now in the official secular religion of the french Republic.
And that overthrow was sealed in blood with the first modern genocide, when the french revolutionaries killed at least 120 000 (from historians going through churches records, mostly women, children and elderly people) out of 800 000 vendéens in a true war of extermination.

And AFAIK, the occasions when this overthrow was re-enacted by the very same mix of free-thinkers/free-masons and socialists were as bloody, the cristeros uprising, and the spanish civil war.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/30/2006 6:13 Comments || Top||

#5  Whenever I read tributes like this to anarchy and stupidity and other such spewings of leftist cant , my eyes glaze over.
The French Revolution isn't over. Rousseau taught us that immaturity and primitivism were the pure source of life, of the hip, of the cool. The French revolutionaries glorified the "grunge" and "inner city" dress and culture of their time, the sans cullotte, and we continue that tradition.


That revolution is the ancestor of communism, Naziism, and Islamic fascism.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/30/2006 11:13 Comments || Top||


The UK's Prospect Mag looks at life after Prez. Bush
A really jingoist and flawed analysis of the US and it's place in the world.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/30/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  blah blah NEOCONSERVATIVES BAD blah blah DECLINE INETIVABLE EVEN IF GORE WON blah blah blah BAD WESTERN CIVILIZATION! BAD! BAD! blah blah blah blah FOR THE HORDE! blah blah blah...
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 10/30/2006 1:23 Comments || Top||

#2  The long 1990s are finally over

I haven't got farther than the first phrase yet. But it seems to me that a journalist unclear that a given unit of time is of fixed duration, regardless when in history it might occur, is perhaps less than totally trustworthy on other items of fact, let alone projection therefrom. Admittedly, I'm a bit absolutest on such things.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/30/2006 6:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Well, everyone seems to think the 60's went from about '63 to '75, although you have to have been at Woodstock to appreciate it, but then again if you were you wouldn't remember it.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 10/30/2006 9:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Getting more serious for a second:

Does it strike anyone as odd that 9/11 *never happened* in this person's universe?

Also, he follows the Left's doctrinaire dictionary definition of "people's movements." Hopefully if I have time today I'll try taking it apart later.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 10/30/2006 9:27 Comments || Top||

#5  Stop playing World of Warcraft , Abdominal Snowman , then you'll have time ...

tsk tsk grand children
Posted by: MacNails || 10/30/2006 11:45 Comments || Top||

#6  Don't listen to him Snowman...heh heh

Guuhrthang
Blood Asylum
Lvl 57 Paladin
Lothar
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 10/30/2006 13:32 Comments || Top||

#7  Actually, I'm at work right now.

(Although on my lunch break, so I'll give the "Readers' Digest Condensed Version" a shot):

* The "Kashmiri separatists" seem to be mainly from Pakistan, not from India, and have been practicing for the past thirty years or so various attempts to ethnically cleanse Kashmiris who disagree with them from the area. They appear to not care whether their victims in this regard are Moslem or Hindu, and there are examples of those "militants" terrorizing Moslem civilians in Kashmir in the archives.

* The situation in Iraq is slightly muddied by the Shia'-Sunni divide, but there are plenty of examples of al-Sadr's groups fighting other Shi'ite groups and militias, for example the Badr Brigades.

* FARC and ELN in Columbia, as far as I can tell, aren't dileneated by any sort of ethnic divide. I could be wrong.

* I am also unaware of any great ethnic divide re: the Maoists in Nepal vs. the more legitimate factions within their government. (I have to phrase that carefully, since they're also apparently part of the government now, thanks to successful political extorsion).

* Only if you classify Hezbollah as a separate ethnic group rather than a religious sect could you explain their existance. Only if the Shi'ites in Lebanon are a different "tribe" rather than a different religion.

* But if you're going to do that, go all the way and point out that we're fighting off the attacks of an imperialistic tribe that cares less for self-rule than the rule of others. If it's all tribalism, ...

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"OK, everyone, Lunch Break is over! Back to standing on your heads!"

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I'll be back later.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 10/30/2006 13:34 Comments || Top||

#8  Don't listen to him Snowman...heh heh

Guuhrthang
Blood Asylum
Lvl 57 Paladin
Lothar


Actually, I've stopped playing until I see what the expansion's gonna be like. I heard the alliance is gonna get healing then.

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Back to the subject at hand:

You could redefine religion as tribalism if you wanted, in fact it might even be more accurate or useful to us than the religion-based conception.

But then you go back to the 9/11 attacks... financed by Pakistan, Saudi Arabia... there are disenfranchised minorities in Saudi Arabia, but none of them, AFAIK, took part in the attacks. The Balochis want their independence from the rest of Pakistan, but we weren't doing anything to them, or to the Pashtun, on 9/10. The latter had just finished turning Afghanistan into a Pakistani satellite state. They _already had_ what they wanted, or what the above-quoted jingoist says they really want.

Why'd they go **** it up?
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 10/30/2006 14:44 Comments || Top||

#9  Why did Hitler declare war on the US after Pearl Harbour? The US was at war with Imperial Japan, not Nazi Germany, and the mood in the country was such that Roosevelt could NOT go after the Nazis, until they obliged by declaring war on us.
But the ego and the evil of the regime demanded that declaration. It is the same with the Islamofascists : they must be at war with us because we are the Great Satan and they are obligated by Allah to destroy us. Horribly bad job that they have been doing, not withstanding.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 10/30/2006 15:50 Comments || Top||

#10  It was a rhetorical question, Shieldwolf.

Half the answer is they're evil, and the other half is that they're screwups. IMHO.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 10/30/2006 16:38 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Oaxaca, Mexico: When the fight starts, it will be at Juarez University
Ah, youth. Those kids! What'll they think of next?

What they are thinking and doing right now is preparing for a confrontation with the federales. I just walked down towards the university and it doesn' look nice. Students, or those masquerading as students, have hijacked 8 vehicles that I could see from the south. I would assume they have done the same to the north. Buses, trucks and trailers have been jijacked and are being used to block Avenida Universidad, from Plaza Oaxaca (Soriana/Fábricas de Francia)) to the university. One of the vehicles is a propane gas tanker, property of Gas de Oaxaca. Its tires have been punctured.

The "students" are mostly masked, striding up and down the boulevard with chests puffed out, demonstrating their willingness to suffer grievious injury or death in support of their cause, whatever of that remains. Caos reigns in and around the plaza's parking lot. Cars and taxis driving around in circles trying to find a way out. Why people are out driving around in the face of this rather well publicized scrum, I do not know.

The "students" have set up barricades up and down the boulevard, blocking both north and southbound traffic. About every 50 meters or so the road is blocked with vehicles, tires, stacks of firewood or boulders. They began setting fire to the tires about 30 minutes ago. The federales have a helicopter in the air circling above the university, planning their approach.

The almost wholly peaceful entrance into the city by the federal forces looks likely to turn violent at the university. I could get no photos. It's just too dangerous. I am highly alergic to the sight of my own blood.

I'm going to take another walk down there now and see what's happening.

Just to keep the record straight, the PFP and other federal forces are not being welcomed like the Americans arriving in Paris (after De Gaulle allowed us in, that is). While everyone I have talked to is pleased that this may finally be coming to an end, no one is particularly pleased that federal forces have entered the city to effect that termination. Suspicion of both federal and state governments runs very high here and probably for good reason.

Fed forces marshalling south of Etla.
The two vehicles in the center are anti-riot tanks and
have snow plows mounted on the front. The water tanker
to their right is there to replenish the water cannons.


Military helicopter used for surveillence.

Some citizens object to the feds' presence. The signs, left to right, read:
"PFP get out"
"Until the fall of URO" (the governor)
"Oaxaca is not an army barracks. Army get out. Get out of Oaxaca URO and take your coterie with you."
"Oaxaca is not an army barracks. Army get out. Have pity on your own children. URO get out."


I hear gunfire or maybe rockets from the university. I gotta go.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/30/2006 09:20 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Politix
The Left's Big Bush Impeachment Play Is On
The insanity begins

May God Bless and Keep our defenders on the front lines safe as these cupcakes endager thousands lof lives with this craziness
Posted by: badanov || 10/30/2006 14:25 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Obviously they have not thought this through. If Bush were impeached and convicted, Cheney would become president. Brings new meaning to "be careful what you wish for...".
Posted by: Spot || 10/30/2006 16:33 Comments || Top||

#2  President Cheney.

Ohhhhh yeah.

Posted by: OldSpook || 10/30/2006 16:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Assuming they could actually eject Pres. Bush ( What a fuckall waste of time !), it would be a trivial matter to do the VP. Probably take two hours.
So then what ? President Pelosi ?
I shudder.
The problem is not the system itself but an evolution of it into such a shark infested environment that you really DO have to be a moonbat, rat, or emotionless drone to make it to the top of the slog pile.
Which leaves us very few decent people worth following.
I blame the strategists.
All of them.
Posted by: J.D. Lux || 10/30/2006 16:51 Comments || Top||

#4  If they are serious in impeaching Bush, they'll do Cheney first. Clear the way so that Pelosi [shudder] would become president immediately. Otherwise, doing Bush first means that the country has a natural sympathy for giving 'the new guy' a chance.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/30/2006 17:14 Comments || Top||

#5  Then Civil War 2 begins because I will not tolerate a coup.
Posted by: djohn66 || 10/30/2006 17:22 Comments || Top||

#6  Can't do chaeney first 'cos Bush would appoint...Karl Rove as veep.
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/30/2006 17:26 Comments || Top||

#7  Can't do chaeney first 'cos Bush would appoint...Karl Rove as veep.

Not Rove. Rumsfeld.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 10/30/2006 17:37 Comments || Top||

#8  Not Rumsfeld. Coulter.
Posted by: DMFD || 10/30/2006 18:34 Comments || Top||

#9  Hillary won't allow the Donks to get out of control before the '08 elections - she needs a stable image
Posted by: Frank G || 10/30/2006 20:52 Comments || Top||

#10  Nah, Cheney gets threatened he develops a "heart condition" and retires, and we get VP Guiliani.
The Dims go after Bush, then Hillary gets to run against now PRESIDENT GUILIANI.

They better be careful, they might get what they ask for - but not what they want.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/30/2006 22:13 Comments || Top||

#11  A new VP has to be confirmed by a majority of both Houses of Congress (per the 25th Amendment) - if the Dems are in a position to impeach they will be in a position to block any "poison pill" VP appointment.

I doubt the Dems have to stones to try - if I thought they did I'd feel better about the possibility they'll be in charge.
Posted by: Angeger Glins1956 || 10/30/2006 22:30 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Right on Target
By J. Peter Pham & Michael I. Krauss

On October 23, after ten more Qassam missiles were fired from northern Gaza into Israel in forty-eight hours, Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) troops entered the area in search of the launchers and their Palestinian crews. Confronted by a large group of gunmen in the town of Beit Hanoun, the IDF patrol exchanged fire with the heavily armed men, nine of whom were killed while twenty were injured. [None of the patrol members was harmed.] Palestinian Authority (PA) president Mahmoud Abbas, also known as Abu Mazen, was quick to accuse Israel of carrying out a "heinous massacre," noting that this "ugly crime against the Palestinian people" took place on the first day of Eid al-Fitr, the holiday that marks the end of Ramadan, the Islamic month of fasting.

Left out of Abu Mazen's carefully scripted indignation was any mention of who the deceased were. One of them, according to the well-connected DEBKA news agency,
Oh, we have a Believer here, though Deka is most probably right here.
was Ata Shinbari, senior commander of the Popular Resistance Committees (PRC) in Gaza, which has been active in the missile offensive and which teamed up with Hamas in June to kidnap IDF Corporal Gideon Shalit. Others were lower-ranked militants with the PRC, which lent vital support to members of the al-Qaeda linked cell that carried out the kidnapping of Corporal Shalit. These have been identified as Muataz Durmush, cousin of PRC leader Zakariah Durmush, Mahmoud Bastal, Taher Atawa, Ahmed Azzam, and Ibrahim Kahil.

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/30/2006 11:03 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Quite simply, while there may be an "infinite" number of angry Palestinians, the number of adept and experienced teachers and planners is quite finite.

Which is what we seem to be seeing outside the Gaza Strip as well.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/30/2006 14:35 Comments || Top||


Thomas Interviews Condolezza Rice
Hattip Israpundit. This is just an excerpt.
QUESTION: You're all over the conservative Jewish blogs for remarks you made recently on the Palestinian state, your commitment to it, living side by side with Israel, and that's been the policy of the Administration since day one.


SECRETARY RICE: Yes.


QUESTION: I'd like to know what evidence you have — I read, and I know you do and a lot more than I do, the sermons, the editorials in the Middle East, the right of return idea, which a lot of people think is just basically overwhelming for a Jewish population with millions and millions of Arabs in the so-called Diaspora. What evidence do you have that teaching their schoolchildren at the ages of four and five to be martyrs, to show up in their little uniforms with plastic guns and their headbands, textbooks one grenade plus two grenades equals, you know, three grenades — what evidence do you have out there that if they had an independent state that they would lay down their arms and not complete the mission of killing the Jews and throwing them out?
Her reply is at the link. I have to agree, very reluctantly, with Cal that "Utopian and rather Naive" best labels her response.
Posted by: Ptah || 10/30/2006 06:56 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Olde Tyme Religion
Islam, Terror and the Second Nuclear Age

We urgently need to know, then, what Islam says about the bomb. Of course there is no single answer to this question. The world’s billion-plus Muslims differ regarding many aspects of their 1,400-year-old religious tradition. Furthermore, nuclear weapons are a relatively new technology, unforeseen by the Prophet and unmentioned in the Koran. Nevertheless, contemporary Muslims are engaged in interpreting their tradition to ascertain how and when nuclear power may be used. Their writings, contained in fatwas and treatises that can be found on the Web and in print, tell a fascinating and disturbing story.

The Islamic discussion of nuclear weapons is profoundly intertwined with a parallel discussion of suicide bombing that is also taking place in the Muslim world. Suicide bombing and nuclear weapons typically kill without discrimination, murdering soldiers or civilians, men or women or children. And using nuclear force against another nuclear power can be suicidal, in the broad sense that retaliation may destroy the nation that attacked first. Beyond these commonalities is the fact that the rise of suicide bombing is driving a historic reconsideration of what might be called the Islamic ethics of violence. To consider Islam and the bomb today must thus inevitably draw us into the complex legal and political thinking of those Muslim authorities who justify the use of force.

Long article by Noah Feldman in NYT
Posted by: Snomosing Spaque1522 || 10/30/2006 13:32 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Perhaps the promotion of democracy in the region, pursued consistently by the United States over the long term, might someday allow the rise of leaders whose Islamism is tempered by the need to satisfy their constituents’ domestic needs — and who eschew anti-Americanism as wasteful and misguided. Iraq was the test case of whether this change could occur in the short term. But we failed to make the experiment work and gave Iraq’s Islamist politicians, Shiite and Sunni alike, ample grounds to continue the anti-American rhetoric that comes so easily to them. In the wake of our tragic mismanagement of Iraq, we are certainly a generation or more from any such unlinking of Islamism and anti-Americanism, if it is to occur at all. And Islamism itself shows no signs of being on the wane as a social or political force.

That means that the best we can hope for in nuclear Islamic states in the near term is a rational dictator like Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan, who sees his bread buttered on the side of an alliance with the West. Such rulers can be very strong and can bring stability, but we also know that their rule (or reign) promotes Islamist opposition, with its often violent overtones. When such rulers die or otherwise fall from power, the Islamists will be poised to use the international power conferred by nuclear weapons to pursue their own ends — ends for now overwhelmingly likely to be anti-American.


And so he ends on a defeatist note: Iraq is failure, past tense.

I thought I had set my nick in the post, guess it didn't stick through the preview.
Posted by: KBK || 10/30/2006 14:19 Comments || Top||

#2  I've found that if you don't have a cookie from posting a comment, it will not set / create a cookie when you submit an article. Gotta post a comment to re-establish your cookie first.
Posted by: .com || 10/30/2006 14:24 Comments || Top||

#3  Ah, that sounds right. I know I overtyped the nym but it didn't stick. And though I just posted a comment as KBK this poster wants to use Gratle Ebbique1006. Hm. My rantburg.com:rbname cookie is KBK. Hm.
Posted by: KBK || 10/30/2006 14:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Really? You've (now) got a cookie but the posting page isn't using it? That's behavior I haven't seen.
Posted by: .com || 10/30/2006 14:35 Comments || Top||

#5  Can't one just type in the desired nym replacing the kewl anonymizer-generated one in the bottom left hand box?
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/30/2006 14:38 Comments || Top||

#6  Never mind. Reality seems to have overtaken my slow typing of ignorant theory, darn it!
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/30/2006 14:40 Comments || Top||

#7 
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Posted by: Enlightenment || 10/30/2006 21:53 Comments || Top||

#8  Fuck off, moron.
Posted by: .com || 10/30/2006 21:57 Comments || Top||

#9  Al Quada stooge just posted as "enligtenment".

Not clear why as the Enligtenment comes after the Reformation something that the Death Cult call ISLAM has never in its submission experienced.

And yes Enligtenment a "Q" requires as "u" to follow it. Islam is just to barbarbian to honor another language's rules.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/30/2006 21:57 Comments || Top||

#10  Happy Halloween, Enlightenment.
Hope you get lots of candy...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/30/2006 21:59 Comments || Top||

#11  Too bad our driveby isn't enlightened enough to properly format a copy/paste job. Money well spent mom and dad.
Posted by: ed || 10/30/2006 23:04 Comments || Top||

#12 
I'm tired of idiots. Dominican idiots, Canadian idiots, idiots whose only contribution to RB is 'kill them all'. And now a conspiracy idiot from the District Of Columbia.

You're redacted. Buh-bye.


Posted by: Pappy || 10/30/2006 23:27 Comments || Top||

#13  And now a conspiracy idiot from the District Of Columbia.

Hope Mrs. Pelosi doesn't get too pissed about being sinktrapped...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/30/2006 23:30 Comments || Top||

#14  Speaking of the "war on terror" and the event that got it all started:

One thing that struck me as odd in the days after 9/11 was Bush saying "We will not tolerate conspiracy theories [regarding 9/11]". Sure enough there have been some wacky conspiracy theories surrounding the events of that day. The most far-fetched and patently ridiculous one that I've ever heard goes like this: Nineteen hijackers who claimed to be devout Muslims but yet were so un-Muslim as to be getting drunk all the time, doing cocaine and frequenting strip clubs decided to hijack four airliners and fly them into buildings in the northeastern U.S., the area of the country that is the most thick with fighter bases. After leaving a Koran on a barstool at a strip bar after getting shitfaced drunk on the night before, then writing a suicide note/inspirational letter that sounded like it was written by someone with next to no knowledge of Islam, they went to bed and got up the next morning hung over and carried out their devious plan. Nevermind the fact that of the four "pilots" among them there was not a one that could handle a Cessna or a Piper Cub let alone fly a jumbo jet, and the one assigned the most difficult task of all, Hani Hanjour, was so laughably incompetent that he was the worst fake "pilot" of the bunch. Nevermind the fact that they received very rudimentary flight training at Pensacola Naval Air Station, making them more likely to have been C.I.A. assets than Islamic fundamentalist terrorists. So on to the airports. These "hijackers" somehow managed to board all four airliners with their tickets, yet not even ONE got his name on any of the flight manifests. So they hijack all four airliners and at this time passengers on United 93 start making a bunch of cell phone calls from 35,000 feet in the air to tell people what was going on. Nevermind the fact that cell phones wouldn't work very well above 4,000 feet, and wouldn't work at ALL above 8,000 feet. But the conspiracy theorists won't let that fact get in the way of a good fantasy. That is one of the little things you "aren't supposed to think about". Nevermind that one of the callers called his mom and said his first and last name, more like he was reading from a list than calling his own mom. Anyway, when these airliners each deviated from their flight plan and didn't respond to ground control, NORAD would any other time have followed standard operating procedure (and did NOT have to be told by F.A.A. that there were hijackings because they were watching the same events unfold on their own radar) which means fighter jets would be scrambled from the nearest base where they were available on standby within a few minutes, just like every other time when airliners stray off course. But of course on 9/11 this didn't happen, not even close. Somehow these "hijackers" must have used magical powers to cause NORAD to stand down, as ridiculous as this sounds because total inaction from the most high-tech and professional Air Force in the world would be necessary to carry out their tasks. So on the most important day in its history the Air Force was totally worthless. Then they had to make one of the airliners look like a smaller plane, because unknown to them the Naudet brothers had a videocamera to capture the only known footage of the North Tower crash, and this footage shows something that is not at all like a jumbo jet, but didn't have to bother with the South Tower jet disguising itself because that was the one we were "supposed to see". Anyway, as for the Pentagon they had to have Hani Hanjour fly his airliner like it was a fighter plane, making a high G-force corkscrew turn that no real airliner can do, in making its descent to strike the Pentagon. But these "hijackers" wanted to make sure Rumsfeld survived so they went out of their way to hit the farthest point in the building from where Rumsfeld and the top brass are located. And this worked out rather well for the military personnel in the Pentagon, since the side that was hit was the part that was under renovation at the time with few military personnel present compared to construction workers. Still more fortuitous for the Pentagon, the side that was hit had just before 9/11 been structurally reinforced to prevent a large fire there from spreading elsewhere in the building. Awful nice of them to pick that part to hit, huh? Then the airliner vaporized itself into nothing but tiny unidentifiable pieces no bigger than a fist, unlike the crash of a real airliner when you will be able to see at least some identifiable parts, like crumpled wings, broken tail section etc. Why, Hani Hanjour the terrible pilot flew that airliner so good that even though he hit the Pentagon on the ground floor the engines didn't even drag the ground!! Imagine that!! Though the airliner vaporized itself on impact it only made a tiny 16 foot hole in the building. Amazing. Meanwhile, though the planes hitting the Twin Towers caused fires small enough for the firefighters to be heard on their radios saying "We just need 2 hoses and we can knock this fire down" attesting to the small size of it, somehow they must have used magical powers from beyond the grave to make this morph into a raging inferno capable of making the steel on all forty-seven main support columns (not to mention the over 100 smaller support columns) soften and buckle, then all fail at once. Hmmm. Then still more magic was used to make the building totally defy physics as well as common sense in having the uppermost floors pass through the remainder of the building as quickly, meaning as effortlessly, as falling through air, a feat that without magic could only be done with explosives. Then exactly 30 minutes later the North Tower collapses in precisely the same freefall physics-defying manner. Incredible. Not to mention the fact that both collapsed at a uniform rate too, not slowing down, which also defies physics because as the uppermost floors crash into and through each successive floor beneath them they would shed more and more energy each time, thus slowing itself down. Common sense tells you this is not possible without either the hijackers' magical powers or explosives. To emphasize their telekinetic prowess, later in the day they made a third building, WTC # 7, collapse also at freefall rate though no plane or any major debris hit it. Amazing guys these magical hijackers. But we know it had to be "Muslim hijackers" the conspiracy theorist will tell you because (now don't laugh) one of their passports was "found" a couple days later near Ground Zero, miraculously "surviving" the fire that we were told incinerated planes, passengers and black boxes, and also "survived" the collapse of the building it was in. When common sense tells you if that were true then they should start making buildings and airliners out of heavy paper and plastic so as to be "indestructable" like that magic passport. The hijackers even used their magical powers to bring at least seven of their number back to life, to appear at american embassies outraged at being blamed for 9/11!! BBC reported on that and it is still online. Nevertheless, they also used magical powers to make the american government look like it was covering something up in the aftermath of this, what with the hasty removal of the steel debris and having it driven to ports in trucks with GPS locators on them, to be shipped overseas to China and India to be melted down. When common sense again tells you that this is paradoxical in that if the steel was so unimportant that they didn't bother saving some for analysis but so important as to require GPS locators on the trucks with one driver losing his job because he stopped to get lunch. Hmmmm. Yes, this whole story smacks of the utmost idiocy and fantastical far-fetched lying, but it is amazingly enough what some people believe. Even now, five years later, the provably false fairy tale of the "nineteen hijackers" is heard repeated again and again, and is accepted without question by so many Americans. Which is itself a testament to the innate psychological cowardice of the American sheeple, i mean people, and their abject willingness to believe something, ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculous in order to avoid facing a scary uncomfortable truth. Time to wake up America.
Posted by: Enlightenment || 10/30/2006 21:53 Comments || Top||


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Simple Things We All Can Do To Help Stop Global Warming
From a poster at Barbra Streisand's website

Below is a link to a great article from The NY Times titled “Beyond Fossil Fuels” by Robert B. Semple Jr. The piece acknowledges that while stopping global warming is an overwhelming and daunting task, everyone has the power to make a difference by making simple, conscious decisions in their every day lives. The Streisand Foundation supports the non-profit group Earth Day Network, and they have compiled a list of a few easy ways you can conserve energy and help protect the environment from further deterioration:

1) Change old, incandescent lights to newer energy-saving models (compact fluorescent lights), turn off lights when not in use and dim lights when in use.
2) Update your heating/cooling system to a more efficient model
3) Tune up old heating/cooling systems, clean out the vents, buy a programmable thermostat
4) Make sure windows are sealed and doors are closed when running air conditioners and heaters
5) Turn on the energy saver switch near your refrigerator’s thermostat
6) Make sure that your refrigerator door seals properly
7) Clean out the condenser coil on your refrigerator (can improve the efficiency of your refrigerator by one third)
8) Wait until you have a full load before running your dishwasher
9) Invest in green stocks and renewable energy companies through socially responsible funds
10) Eat locally grown food and fruits and vegetables that are in season (if the food doesn't have to travel far, there's less carbon dioxide from the trucks that ship it)
11) Eat organic (the pesticides used on crops releases carbon contained in soil into the atmosphere)
12) Buy recycled

13)Scrap Streisand's Gulfstream to save energy in the manufacture of Coors Cans. Get her an organic bicycle hand-crafted by Chinese slave-laborers.
14) Stop playing Streisand recordings.
15) Prevent the mass burning of marijuana leaves by pop-culture conformists.
16) Force moonbats to stop bathing (sorry, already done)
17) Require Streisand, Ted Turner, Al Gore et al to power their mansions and production facilities with 12 volt organic solar cells hung from the roof of the unabomber's outhouse.


"Beyond Fossil Fuel" by Robert B. Semple Jr., The New York Times
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 10/30/2006 16:57 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  18) Only inhale. Exhaling CO2 adds to Gaias burden.
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 10/30/2006 17:32 Comments || Top||

#2  I always liked these three simple things you can do to save the earth:
1- Drink your own piss
2- Eat your own shit
3- Die before you're thirty
Posted by: bruce || 10/30/2006 17:32 Comments || Top||

#3  1- Drink your own piss
2- Eat your own shit
3- Die before you're thirty


4- Convince Babs to put herself out of our misery.
Posted by: badanov || 10/30/2006 17:42 Comments || Top||

#4  19) Put Al Gore in a big pot and season him with about 500 pounds of Beano.
Posted by: Darrell || 10/30/2006 17:53 Comments || Top||

#5  11) Eat organic (the pesticides used on crops releases carbon contained in soil into the atmosphere)

Of course, eating organic means using more cropland, which uses more water, which uses more 'organic' fertilizer (ie stinky poop) which increases the risk of picking up E. Coli or Listeria around 8 times greater than regular food production. Since they do not use weed control chemicals, the farmer must rely on mechanical weeding, which means he's running his tractor far more, burning more disel fuel and putting out more pollution.

Remember, arsenic is 'organic' too.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 10/30/2006 17:55 Comments || Top||

#6  As are syphillis and gangrene, neither of which appeal to me.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 10/30/2006 18:17 Comments || Top||

#7  20. Close your windows so your furnace doesn't run all night.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/30/2006 18:26 Comments || Top||

#8  1) Make sure that there's at least one other liberal on-board when riding in your limo.
2) Combine several trips in your Gulfstream V into one.
3) Turn the AC in your Malibu mansion up to 73.
4) Turn the heat at your Vail ski lodge down to 73.
5) Never pass the beans to Michael Moore.
Posted by: DMFD || 10/30/2006 18:31 Comments || Top||

#9  We need to seal the volcanoes so they stop erupting and spewing their global warming causing crap into the air. I think a study on what would happen if we nuked a volcano might be in order. Sure it'll be messy short term but we're in this for the big picture and besides, we could probably sell the blasts on pay-per-view and help pay for some of the nuclear cleanup.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/30/2006 18:40 Comments || Top||

#10  Yankee approach: use up, wear out, when gone, do without.
Posted by: KBK || 10/30/2006 19:39 Comments || Top||

#11  Actually all of the first 7 are good practical ways to slow your electrical use.

And the Compact Fluorescents are a very good idea - if we could change EVERY incandescent bulb in the US to a CF, we coudl cut our annual electrical power consumption by a lot.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/30/2006 21:39 Comments || Top||

#12  and say goodbye to 3-way bulbs....ya, I know...
Posted by: Frank G || 10/30/2006 21:42 Comments || Top||

#13  If Global Warming had lived up to its billing...
This poor DEAD Sequioa would have thrived in my Chicago Suburban Home...

Babs owes it a life!


Posted by: 3dc || 10/30/2006 21:52 Comments || Top||

#14  21. Soylent Green!
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/30/2006 22:02 Comments || Top||

#15  Barbara Streisand is trying to divert attention from other dangers:
Posted by: DMFD || 10/30/2006 22:12 Comments || Top||


A Muslim Manifesto in America?
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/30/2006 06:20 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Over my dead body.
Posted by: SR-71 || 10/30/2006 10:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Yes, finally published in a neswpaper. Will AP pick it up ? Will all major Metro papers run it ?
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 10/30/2006 11:59 Comments || Top||

#3  When, however, did the tiny Muslim community in America, estimated to be between two and three million--by contrast there are some six million Jews in America--begin to assert its takeover?

When America's government and media simultaneously capitulated over the Mohammed cartoons published in Denmark.

If there was one watershed event, it was this. One of America's most fundamental constitutional rights was suddenly challenged and nobody rose up to say, "To hell with you and your absurd Muslim sensitivities."

The fawning and appeasement that followed Islam's Cartoonifada empowered even more insatiable Muslim demands like few other concessions that have ever been made.

It is as though we are trying to remove all of the planet's sharp objects at the insistence of this world's most childish religion.

As mentioned in a quotation often attributed to the American Bard, Mark Twain:

""Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it."

We are attempting to child-proof this world because Islam's infantile doctrine demands it under threat of terrorist reprisal. Either Islam learns to tie its own shoelaces or we must let it trip and fall with no one to catch it. Preferrably on a very long flight of stairs.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/30/2006 16:01 Comments || Top||

#4  SR-71 , I think that's the idea......
Posted by: Graising Clineque9074 || 10/30/2006 17:32 Comments || Top||

#5  Probably is their idea, but mine might differ as to who goes first.
Posted by: SR-71 || 10/30/2006 19:37 Comments || Top||



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