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Home Front: Politix
Obama Signs Bill Guaranteeing Active Duty Military Pay During Shutdown
Hat tip Procopius2k
Posted by: || 10/01/2013 00:02 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  See also STARS-N-STRIPES > DOD: PAY WILL BE ON TIME IFF BUDGET BILL OKAYED BY OCTOBER 7.

versus

* BLOOMBERG > OBAMACARE'S LATINO PUSH MAY GIVE DEMOCRATS THE EDGE.

"Winning".
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/01/2013 0:13 Comments || Top||

#2  And so it begins ...

* BLOOMBERG > BREAKING: US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OFFCIALLY SHUTS DOWN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 17 YEARS.

* FREEREPUBLIC > [CBSLocal] WHITE HOUSE ORDERS SHUTDOWN TO GO AHEAD.

versus

* HUFFPO > GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN BLAME WOULD FALL ON REPUBLICANS, GOP SEENS AS "SPOILED CHILDREN":POLL.

It also helps when 9.999 times out of 10 the LeftMedias = MSM criticizes the GOP-n-only-the-GOP, NOT-N-NEVAR! THE DEMS.

* DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND > [POLITICSUSA] HARRY REID CALLS HOUSE GOP "INSANE" WHILE DEMOS KILL THEIR THIRD ATTACK ON ACA [aka ObamaCare].

* SAME > WHITE HOUSE PETITION TO DESIGNATE THE GOP AS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION/GROUP FOR REPEATEDLY THREATENING THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE USA.

To rehash what I'd said earlier this year, as per FLOTUS-MICHELLE-VS-BOEHNER = POST-OCTOBER REVOLUTION/1917 BOLSHEVIKS VS. MENSHEVIKS, + WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MENSHEVIKS.

Totalitarians versus Democratic-Liberal Socialists.

To paraph "THE SIMPSONS" NED FLANDERS = D *** NGED UNITARIANS!

When Unitarians divorce, it taint pretty.

Ditto for "Where Commies go, Radical Islam = Hard Boyz follow", + vicey versey.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/01/2013 1:07 Comments || Top||

#3  This merits surprise meter.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/01/2013 1:14 Comments || Top||

#4  ..maybe, but if anyone bothered to read real history, not paying the troops usually ends badly (see the long line of Caesars, Cromwell, etc - don't forget the recent turn over in Egypt). The government institution with the highest support of the America public is its military. Reid stripped this from the Trunk package in the last submitted CR and made sure it got done cause he didn't want the rank and file to believe that only the Trunks had their backs covered. Not good if things turn ugly to have alienated the people with the big guns as well.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/01/2013 8:57 Comments || Top||

#5  WH Aids told Obama that the bill was to fund the Muslim Brotherhood.
Posted by: airandee || 10/01/2013 11:17 Comments || Top||

#6  but if anyone bothered to read real history

P2K, you caused me to try to imagine Obama reading decline & fall---you must never use this power for evil!
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/01/2013 15:01 Comments || Top||

#7  I'm a little surprised this didn't appear on the 'Burg the day it happened.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/01/2013 17:42 Comments || Top||


Shutdown showdown hits brink as Senate kills House spending bill
[WASHINGTONTIMES] The Senate voted Monday afternoon to kill House Republicans' latest stopgap spending offer, holding firm in their demand that Congress continue to fund Obamacare as part of any government-funding debate.

The 54-46 vote officially tabled both proposals the House GOP passed early Sunday morning, one of which would have funded the government while delaying the health law for a year, and the other of which would have repealed one of the Affordable Care Act's tax increases.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid
... the charismatic senator-for-life from Nevada, currently majority leader ...
bundled both of those proposals into a single vote, which made it easier to round up the support to kill them.

Now the measure returns to the House, where Republicans have said they are considering several options to keep the government open past midnight Monday while also making a dent in Obamacare. Earlier in the day Republicans complained that they weren't getting the bill back from the Senate early enough.

"Senate decided not to work yesterday. Well my goodness, if there's such an emergency, where are they?" Speaker John A. Boehner said as he opened Monday's House session.
Posted by: Fred || 10/01/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Deadlock = Lockout???

In any case, WINNER/ADVANTAGE = IRAN, CHINA + NUCLEAR GLOBAL JIHAD.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/01/2013 0:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Weasel words aside, the Democrats ignored the Republicans entirely.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/01/2013 10:30 Comments || Top||

#3  Here's hoping my paycheck this friday will NOT have federal withholding on it!
/SARC
That reality ALONE puts the lie to the "shutdown" premise: Government will not shut down, just be trimmed back to a forced balance budget. If Obama is the smartest man in the room, he'll have the wisdom to know where to cut to ensure that the government makes its LEGITIMATE payments.

The last showdown nearly spilled the beans when the TSA shut down the airports because of the Sequester: that was immediately seen as a punitive measure against a public that DARED to tell them to cut back their spending!
Posted by: Ptah || 10/01/2013 10:41 Comments || Top||

#4  It was the FAA that tried to shut down the airports, not the TSA.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/01/2013 18:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Pappy, some days it's hard to tell the TSA's product from trying to shut down airports.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 10/01/2013 19:51 Comments || Top||

#6  Perhaps. But let's let the other end of the political spectrum make the inaccurate claims.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/01/2013 21:22 Comments || Top||


Sen. Boxer: Government Shutdown Threat "War On Women"
[Real Clear Politics] Sen. Barbara Call me Senator! Boxer
Senator-for-Life from Caliphornia...
(D-CA) says a potential government shutdown would be especially harmful to women. Boxer says Republicans have targeted a part of the Affordable Care Act that benefits women's health.
Posted by: Fred || 10/01/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Weiner, Filner, Menendez apparently don't count, right Babs?
Posted by: Raj || 10/01/2013 0:55 Comments || Top||

#2  What about minorities, you racist, ahem, thing?!
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/01/2013 1:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Federal government 'shuts down'; women, minorities hardest hit...
Posted by: Raj || 10/01/2013 2:17 Comments || Top||

#4  Much of this over-the-top rhetoric coming from the Demoncrats (sp) and the media are quite similar to the threats, accusations, screaming, and shouting of teenagers being denied the family car for a date or a drug abuser being confronted by a fed-up co-dependent who decided it was time someone went to rehab. The verbal abuse positively identifies who is the juvenile/doper.

She is, of course, referring to the conscience clauses being added to the so-called "ACA" not obligating companies or insurance plans to finance abortifacients and abortions. Pro-life legislators have endured this kind of abuse and false witness for decades to the point of being practically immune to it (in fact, these practices were perfected while attacking pro-lifers to support abortion, and was just extended to everything else when it was noticed there was no push-back). I was wondering where the H*ll they were, and was about to write off the REpubs as nutless f*ckwits no longer deserving our support.

Good to know these guys are in the fight. They'll hold the line, no matter what kind of sh*t is thrown at them by the media and the Donks, because they know their constituency is on to those two and will be checking their voting records.

My worry is that the leadership will cut and run. In that I will be directing my donation money to the National Right To Life PAC, and tell every GOP leadership fundraising caller that they are nutless f*ckwits and to put me on their do-not-call list. I'll toss a few dollars towards Crews, Rand Paul, and the pro-lifers, but not a cent to the "But it't THEIR TURN!" leadership that gave us Dole and McCain.
Posted by: Ptah || 10/01/2013 10:33 Comments || Top||

#5  hyperbole: (/haɪˈpɜrbəliː/ hy-PUR-bə-lee;[1] Greek: ὑπερβολή hyperbolē, "exaggeration") is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/01/2013 11:45 Comments || Top||

#6  Translation of Barbara Boxer's thought process:

Quack, quack quack... quack!

Posted by: Crusoth Henbane3311 || 10/01/2013 12:05 Comments || Top||


The DNC is nearly broke
Through August, 10 months after helping President Obama secure a second term, the DNC owed its various creditors a total of $18.1 million, compared to the $12.5 million cash cushion the Republican National Committee is holding.

Several executives at firms that contract to provide services to the party -- speaking anonymously to avoid antagonizing what remains an important if troubled client -- describe an organization playing for time as they raise alarms about past-due bills falling further behind.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/01/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Isn't this news from 2010, 2012, + earlier this year???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/01/2013 0:15 Comments || Top||

#2  These contractors never heard of the phrase 'cash on delivery'? Suckers...
Posted by: Raj || 10/01/2013 0:38 Comments || Top||

#3  This will only get much worse for them. They cater to the takers not givers. Their loyalty is only as long as money is dolled out. As the middle class disappears so goes the money. So where will they go for money?. Any country who would wish to do us harm. King got money from the Communists for his civil rights movement. That's why the FBI investigated him. Someone in our political wing of government squashed that investigation. So look for more problems. Remember also the Democrats have walked away from their own conservatives. To them they don't exist. This is the heart and core of America. The real core of the tea party. The average true American. Unions, workers, are still here. Love of country is still here. These politicians have destroyed their connection to the Core of America. That is the same situation with our media. The public does only what they can. They don't read or watch this media as it only lies to the American people. Believe me on this. It is not the low information public. It is a turning away in disgust.
Posted by: Dale || 10/01/2013 5:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Cash? I thought they meant morally.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/01/2013 8:25 Comments || Top||

#5  King got money from the Communists for his civil rights movement.

But unlike today's borrowing from Communist China, those 'Civil Rights' dollars did NOT have to be repaid with interest. We took the cheese.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/01/2013 8:32 Comments || Top||

#6  'Civil Rights' dollars did NOT have to be repaid with interest. We took the cheese.

And quite a few radicals took a percentage for themselves.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/01/2013 11:52 Comments || Top||

#7  ...speaking anonymously to avoid antagonizing what remains an important if troubled client

Nice business yas got here? Be a shame if da IRS showed up ta audit it...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/01/2013 13:12 Comments || Top||

#8  $!8.1 mil? Pocket change for Soros. This is just the Dems self-identifying as deadbeats (as if there was any doubt before now.)
Posted by: PBMcL || 10/01/2013 15:25 Comments || Top||

#9  The DNC is nearly broke and that seems like a good thing--it limits the money for campaigns. On the other hand, it is Donk news as usual--about everything the Donks touch ends up damaged or broke.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/01/2013 16:22 Comments || Top||

#10  the New TBTF..

Bailout in 5,4,3,2,1
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/01/2013 17:31 Comments || Top||

#11  They've driven the country way past broke, this is karma.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 10/01/2013 18:10 Comments || Top||


Not Actually A Shutdown
[Nat'lReview] The hysterical fears about the effects of a government "shutdown" being voiced by many in Washington, such as Senator Tom Harkin (D., Iowa), who claims it is "as dangerous as the break-up of the Union before the Civil War," are almost comical.

The truth from the experience of prior shutdowns, applicable federal laws, Justice Department legal opinions, and Office of Management and Budget (OMB) directives, is that crucial government services and benefits would continue without interruption even if Congress fails to agree on a continuing resolution (CR) or President Obama vetoes it. That includes all services essential for national security and public safety -- such as the military and law enforcement -- as well as mandatory government payments such as Social Security and veterans' benefits.

A 1981 memorandum by David Stockman during the Reagan administration that is still relied on by the OMB laid out the services that continue without interruption during any government "shutdown":

o National security, including the conduct of foreign relations essential to the national security or the safety of life and property;
o Benefit payments and the performance of contract obligations under no-year or multi-year appropriations or other funds remaining available for those purposes;
o Medical care of inpatients and emergency outpatient care and activities essential for the safe use of food, drugs, and hazardous materials;
o Air-traffic control and other transportation safety functions;
o Border and coastal protection and surveillance;
o Protection of federal lands, buildings, waterways, and other property of the U.S.;
o Care of prisoners and others in federal custody;
o Law enforcement and criminal investigations;
o Emergency and disaster assistance;
o Activities essential to the preservation of the money and banking system of the U.S., including borrowing and tax collection;
o Production of power and maintenance of the power-distribution system; and
o Protection of research property.

So planes, trains, and automobiles will keep running and TSA will keep patting you down. The president can continue to go on overseas trips to conduct foreign relations. Social Security and Medicaid benefits will keep going out. The Border Patrol will keep patrolling our borders to prevent illegal crossings (at least as much as this administration will let it do that). The Federal Bureau of Prisons will keep convicted criminals in prison and the FBI will continue making arrests and investigating violations of the law.

The FDA and the Department of Agriculture will continue their safety testing and inspection of food and drugs, and medical care of inpatients and emergency outpatient care will keep right on going. The Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department will keep printing and borrowing money and protecting the banking system. Unfortunately, the Internal Revenue Service will continue collecting taxes.

It is certainly true that "nonessential" federal employees will be furloughed. But so many federal employees are considered "essential" that when President Bill Clinton vetoed a CR in November 1995 in a dispute with Newt Gingrich over a balanced budget and welfare reform, only about 800,000 out of a total of almost 4.5 million federal employees were furloughed. In a second funding gap from December 1995 to January 1996, only about 300,000 employees were furloughed. So the vast majority of federal workers will keep right on working.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/01/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  IIUC, IOW the Bammer can't blame the Sequester or Shutdown for his surrender on Syria???

Or IRAN? or CHINA? or ...@etc???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/01/2013 0:18 Comments || Top||

#2  OOOOPPPSSS, forgot REAL CLEAR POLITICS/WORLD > UNFORTUNATELY, OBAMA STILL OWNS THE "SYRIA" MESS.

Plus Libya + Egypt before that.

* Also from SAME > A WORLD WHERE NO ONE LISTENS TO [Superpower] AMERICA.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/01/2013 0:21 Comments || Top||

#3  IOW, this is just the latest in what may prove to be an infinite series of Squirrel!s. Which is good since we were all tired of Benghazi, the IRS, yadda yadda yadda, right?
Posted by: SteveS || 10/01/2013 1:26 Comments || Top||

#4  I don't see anything about the Peanut Allotment in the otherwise excellent list of what the Feds ought to be doing all the time and only.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/01/2013 4:21 Comments || Top||

#5  If the furloughed are 'nonessential' why has the government hired them? If I hire someone to cut the grass I don't hire another to sit on the porch.
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 10/01/2013 6:00 Comments || Top||

#6  If you look at that list, the fundamental theme is 'security'. That was one of the basics put forth in the Federalists Papers justifying a reformed (from the Articles of Confederation) national governing body. Amazing how much the barnacle build up on the 'ship of state' since those writings.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/01/2013 8:50 Comments || Top||

#7  Medi-caid is for people with limited income and assets. If the applicant has assets and bank accounts that have "respectable totals", the applicant probably won't get the benefit. I believe the 2 year window for transfer of assets has now been extended to 5. With eligibility for Obamacare and a future 'single payer' scheme based on assets and income, who will grandma transfer her estate assets to ?

Another door conveniently closed on earners and savers.

Posted by: Besoeker || 10/01/2013 9:02 Comments || Top||

#8  So the vast majority of federal workers will keep right on working.

Yeah, right! Like that ever happens... Oh, wait... That's me. Working here, boss. You betcha!
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 10/01/2013 9:28 Comments || Top||

#9  Mrs. Ret. was told to come in for 'maybe' 4 hours today, primarily to get the official furlough notification. My task for today is to go to the bank and hit the retirement IRA to make the bills.
Also will be sending Happy Shutdown emails to my two fine Donk WA Senators.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/01/2013 9:38 Comments || Top||

#10  Loans requiring federal signature (FHA etx.) won't be approved. I suspect most permits from regulatory agencies won't be approved, stopping lots of construction projects, etc. It won't take more than a couple of weeks of no new permits to shut down the economy, I suspect.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/01/2013 9:58 Comments || Top||

#11  The answer is again, simple. The law requires a budget. Increase the penalties to the top 10 senior senate members and house members to 50 years in prison. Hold special elections and fill their seats. Continue until you get a budget or a new congress.

Oh and if it goes 3 years and the president has veto'd more than twice, it's an automatic high crimes and he's AUTOMATICALLY impeached.

Hold these morons responsible for their jobs like actual humans are.
Posted by: Silentbrick - Oil Rig Insanity Division || 10/01/2013 10:07 Comments || Top||

#12  Silentbrick, you are sooooo funny.

I agree with you. Unfortunately, since Congress would have to pass any such laws, and congress never passes a law that hurts members, it ain't gonna happen.

My approach would be to lock them all in the Capitol building. After three days, cut off the water (which would shut off the bathrooms). After another three days, shut off food deliveries. Three days later, cut off the air. Not the air conditioning, the air. After another week or so, call special elections to get replacements. Lather, rinse, repeat as necessary.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 10/01/2013 11:10 Comments || Top||

#13  My original idea was burning them on the Mall, but it's a bit rough and my wife always gives me funny looks.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 10/01/2013 11:34 Comments || Top||

#14  So with your law, Congress gets jailed, but the President just gets kicked out of office.

I wouldn't trust the current President with that law, especially since his party blocks everything the House does and blames them at the same time.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 10/01/2013 11:41 Comments || Top||

#15  Phase 1: Tar, feathers, rail, politicians; some assembly required.
If that does not produce the desired effect proceed to
Phase 2: Rope, lamppost, politicians; some assembly required.
Historically these have eventually worked to restore respect (or fear, I'm not particular) of the people by the political class.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/01/2013 12:41 Comments || Top||

#16  Not Actually A Shutdown

With the non-essentials now suspended, haven't the Tea Party types actually achieved their goal of smaller government? Given all the waivers for 'essential', they just have to address real issues as they come up individually. Don't throw me into that briar patch!
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/01/2013 15:14 Comments || Top||

#17  Send the entire Congress to Syria. No ransom will be paid. The survivors, if any, are eligible to run for re-election.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/01/2013 17:40 Comments || Top||



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