The bathroom backed up to the master closet, so it seemed convenient. Daily Mail UK again does the reporting that the NYT, CNN and WaPo can't be bothered to do. Complete with handy timeline to date.
Duplicate of Frank G's article, below.
Gaaah! I hate when that happens. And Poster didn't flag it as a duplicate...
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08/18/2015 13:56 ||
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O finger, entangled armillary,
The asteroids of Willie and Hillary
Whose treason so rankles;
Put cuffs on those cankles
And point as they spin toward the pillory!
Drudge headline. Can this get any more ridiculous?
The IT company Hilary Clinton chose to maintain her private email account was run from a loft apartment and its servers were housed in the bathroom closet, Daily Mail Online can reveal.
Daily Mail Online tracked down ex-employees of Platte River Networks in Denver, Colorado, who revealed the outfit's strong links to the Democrat party but expressed shock that the 2016 presidential candidate chose the small private company for such a sensitive job.
One, Tera Dadiotis, called it 'a mom and pop shop' which was an excellent place to work, but hardly seemed likely to be used to secure state secrets. And Tom Welch, who helped found the company, confirmed the servers were in a bathroom closet.
It can also be disclosed that the small number of employees who were aware of the Clinton contract were told to keep it secret.
The way in which Clinton came to contract a company described as a 'mom and pop' operation remains unclear.
However Daily Mail Online has established a series of connections between the firm and the Democrat party.
Posted by: Frank G ||
08/18/2015 09:45 ||
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The way in which Clinton came to contract a company described as a 'mom and pop' operation remains unclear. However Daily Mail Online has established a series of connections between the firm and the Democrat party.
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Baffled by how Clinton decided to hire Platte River, ex-employees suggested David DeCamillis, the company's vice-president of sales and marketing might have had a hand in courting her business.
Another theory put forward was that Colorado governor John Hickenlooper recommended them to her. The Democratic Convention was held in Denver in 2008.
Tera said: 'David DeCamillis was a big Democrat. He went to the Democrat Convention.
'He definitely helped Platte River grow, he had a strong sales background. And he brought a lot of clients on, that was his role as the VP of sales.'
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As has been suggested here, peeling the Platte River Network onion is the key.
Obviously the FAR (Fed Acquisition Reg) for contracting was not followed. Who initiated the contract; DoS contracting office? [doubtful] Clinton Foundation? DNC? State of Colorado? The Clintons themselves? Other Gov't Agency ?
Hours charged to contract ?
Deliverables/reports ?
Scope of work ?
Who picked up the tab ?
Platte River pay taxes on the earnings ?
Government liaison/POC ?
Travel to client site, by whom ?
Travel to Gov't contract site, by whom ?
Contract related emails [separate from Clinton traffic] ?
Performance bonuses ?
Posted by: 49 pan ||
08/18/2015 11:52 Comments ||
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"Ethically Disadvantaged"
Posted by: Frank G ||
08/18/2015 12:01 Comments ||
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Besoeker, I really doubt that this had any government contract. This was just a private email server for Hillary's private use. My son sets these things up for a living. So Hillary's server would be just like you or I might set up.
Except of course, I would be careful not to put any TS/SI/TK/NOFORN stuff on it.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia ||
08/18/2015 12:06 Comments ||
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Services for gov't entities involving gov't materials or personnel cannot be performed without an approved contract.
What you have suggested may be what happened Rambler, but it was illegal.
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'The server is now in the hands of the FBI who took it off Platte River Networks hands last Wednesday'
Hope they used gloves
Poo poo pee do
Posted by: Jan ||
08/18/2015 12:13 Comments ||
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C'mon Besoeker! Laws are for the little people. Hillary is too important and busy to be bothered with administrivia like government contracts.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia ||
08/18/2015 12:18 Comments ||
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IMO, this is far, far bigger than Watergate.
One of the principles of modern spin-doctoring is that you get out in front of the train wreck. Dump the info all at once on a Friday so it doesn't remain a steady drip, drip, drip in the news cycle, and so you, and not your opponents, can set the tone.
That Mrs. Bill is not doing this suggests the complete story is even worse than we suspect. And for anyone who can grasp the ugly implications of the Secretary of State running her own private email network, it's already pretty bad.
An alternative explanation is that Hillary simply thinks she is bullet-proof and teflon-coated and it will all simply fade away like Benghazi. This seems naive in the middle of a presidential election campaign. The Clintons are a lot of things, but naive isn't one of them.
On the 'receive' end, PLN could have had the ability to remote into the Beest's email in order that their tech guys/gals could lift the classification markings prior to her opening the traffic.
A remote process of that type might have required the Beest to monitor the email timelines in order to allow a few minutes or an hour delay for PLN to complete the sanitizing.
On the 'send' or transmit end, someone [gov't person/contractor] would have had to have had access to SIPR/JWICS boxes, and knowledge as to how to go about transferring classified data to an UNCLAS box and sending. A gov't person, sitting in front of the SIPR/JWICS box removing classification markings would have drawn the attention of someone, or a bunch of someones over that length of time
Whatever the process, I suspect the FBI is now fully cognizant of exactly how it all went down.
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Services for gov't entities involving gov't materials or personnel cannot be performed without an approved contract.
A government official may have a private email server. They cannot conduct government business on it, or pay for it with government funds.
From the timeline, it appears that the email server itself was paid for by either her foundation or her first presidential campaign. contract for email services came prior to confirmation (about a week) as SecState on 2009; the transaction was likely as a wind-down of her campaign as well.
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A good friend saw his Air force career go into rapid descent when he left a Secret document on his desk in the Weapons office when he went down the hall to get a cup of coffee. The Sgt that reported him felt bad but it was his duty. Now we have this 'fiasco' and she still is seen as a viable candidate for president! Not my America anymore. HILLARY FOR PRISON/2016
Posted by: Total War ||
08/18/2015 13:40 Comments ||
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I suspect the FBI is now fully cognizant of exactly how it all went down.
I'm sure they do, as do a couple of people at State. What they're going to do about it I don't know.
Though if I were Trey Gowdy, I'd be really, really interested in finding the people who were entering/stripping security codes on the email, and get them in front of a House hearing. Get them to lawyer up and offer them a deal.
Pappy: good point and I think that was the genesis of the Hildaserver, from her 2008 campaign. She found it convenient then and found it even more convenient for her SoS time.
Posted by: Steve White ||
08/18/2015 13:53 Comments ||
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I suspect the FBI is now fully cognizant of exactly how it all went down.
Of course it does - why do you think the FBI, which is rapidly turning into a Political operation, is investigating it? Fox, Henhouse, etc...
It'll be swept under the rug or someone will be made into a scapegoat. Otherwise there will be a Special Prosecutor.
This is a little bigger than 'outing' a so-called and classification-expired 'secret agent' like Plume.
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SteveS, that is the old way of doing it. The modern way of managing a political scandal is as follows:
(1) Deny everything
(2) Release info when absolutely forced to and perhaps not all do delay the process
(3) Complain about being persecuted for political reasons and suggest we should all move along because nobody has found anything.
Moveon.org was funded as stage 3 of the Clinton scandals. Hillary is following the same rulebook. Unfortunately what works for a sex scandal does not really work for incompetent treason. Poll numbers keep dropping because people are noticing the game this time.
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Personally, I think having it in a mom-n-pop bathroom closet is a stroke of genius. No need for any of that fancy-shmancy encryption stuff because it was as safe and secure as if it had been at Fort Knox! No foreign intelligence agency would even think to look there!
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"This is the fourth visit by plumbers this week. First some guys with heavy Russian accents, then those Chinese dudes, then..."
Snark of the day.
Posted by: Frank G ||
08/18/2015 15:59 Comments ||
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When Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas, and then President of the US, he had the means of covering for he and Hillary's crimes. Hillary does not have that luxury anymore.
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The next revelation: an overseas system administrator? Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-08-18 15:59|| 2015-08-18 15:59||
Well, if she was communicating with Non-U.S. personnel on the same system she was receiving 'high-side' traffic on, and it appears she was.... what happens next ?
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Besoeker, I don't think the sh!t storm has hit yet--it's still on the horizon brewing. Obama is in an interesting position. If he tries to cover it up, he looks bad or guilty. His best alternative is to let it go forward and say he didn't know which makes him look not in charge or incompetent. His choice is between incompetent and out of touch or complicit. It would be most interesting to know what the classified emails that were found said. The present estimate of classified material is about 20%. Who knows what Hillary's camp dumped or purged?
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I think the next revelation is that Platte River was only holding the physical server and doing any physical opeations (like plugging it in, pushing the big red switch, network cabling, etc...) and the admin and support was done by a foreign, Chinese, company.
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The investigators need to know who cleaned the hard drives and how clean they got the drives. Sounds like the investigators need to put the heat and threats of jail time on some of the Beest's assistants to make them sing out the names of the IT guys that did the cleaning. Find associations and bring down the Hildabeest.
Posted by: Alaska Paul ||
08/18/2015 17:28 Comments ||
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O needs to keep away from the Beest. She could bring him down. This could become a beautiful situation very ugly as events unfold.
Posted by: Alaska Paul ||
08/18/2015 17:30 Comments ||
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I wonder about that AP. Everyone talks about how Champ will defend Hilarity from being indicted. If this continues to mushroom not only will he not be able to do that, he might get sucked into the whirlpool. In which case I expect him to torpedo her himself and call a press conference to do it.
Posted by: Steve White ||
08/18/2015 18:26 Comments ||
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As Secretary of State, the Beest would have had to have emailed the Champ or his staff at some point. He was her boss! The fact it would have been sent on a non-.gov system would have immediately come to the attention of Champ's staff, the White House Communications Detachment and the Information Management Officer. It is very likely that the Champ knew what she was doing.
Throwing Clinton under the bus may not be an option for the Champ.
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I agree with grom. The confab this past weekend was to plan a strategy. Obama has denied knowing what was going on in his administration before and nothing came of it. They had to decide whitch minion to sacrifice.
Posted by: Deacon Blues ||
08/18/2015 19:27 Comments ||
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ValJar can take the fall. O knows nothing. He delegates to ValJar. On the other hand, if he got emails from the Beest, then he has them on his drives. Too many cooks getting into the perloo. This is becoming a sticky wicket for the Beest, and could become one for O by induction, so to speak.
Posted by: Alaska Paul ||
08/18/2015 20:18 Comments ||
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champ may have had a default that sent anything from the beast to the spam file
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08/18/2015 20:45 Comments ||
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#38, AP - that ain't gonna happen. The puppeteer never pays the price while there's other pawns to throw out. Cheryl Mills, Huma, .....
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08/18/2015 21:26 Comments ||
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What this tells Ms. Clinton: Someone who knows something about your server is talking to us. You don't know who it is. Therefore, until you peg the snitch, you have absolutely no idea what he, she or it are telling us about Hillaryworld.
Posted by: Deacon Blues ||
08/18/2015 6:56 Comments ||
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"If you can't be a good example, at least be a horrible lesson"
Posted by: Frank G ||
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I think he's well on the way, Frank -
Mr. de Blasio often asks aides to consider how decisions fit into the broader mission he has set for his administration, to combat inequality and advance social justice.
Doesn't that make you feel all warm and fuzzy? And progressive?
Posted by: Bobby ||
08/18/2015 7:34 Comments ||
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...to combat inequality and advance social justice.
There's always been inequality and a lack of 'social' justice. It will be and will continue to be. There's a difference between mitigating a problem and tilting at windmills in a fantasy search for utopia. Mother nature has evolve a creature that is fundamentally hierarchical, territorial, and tribal. We are not angels, but men. The greatest injustice and inequities come from the concentration and abuses of power. For the Left, it's always about more power.
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