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U.S. Mounts Offensive Near Syria
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Syria-Lebanon-Iran
UN to Probe Syrians in Hariri Killing
The head of a UN probe into the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri indicated yesterday his team would investigate Syrian officials who were in charge of security. "We will of course investigate everyone who was in one way or another responsible for security in Lebanon at the time of the crime," Detlev Mehlis told a news conference when asked if his team would be able to question Syrian officials and intelligence.

Many Lebanese hold the Syrians at least indirectly responsible for the Feb. 14 attack which killed Hariri and 20 other people when his motorcade was bombed on Beirut's seafront. The UN Security Council ordered the investigation, which got under way on Thursday, after a UN fact-finding mission decided Lebanon's own inquiry was "seriously flawed". Veteran German prosecutor Mehlis said his commission expected to receive relevant information without delay. "Any country which may possess such information, be it judicial evidence or intelligence information, and does not provide it to the commission will bear the responsibility should we fail in our efforts to establish the truth," he said.

Mehlis showed photographs of a white Mitsubishi pick-up truck of the type German explosives investigators and Swiss experts determined was probably used in the attack. It was not yet clear whether the truck was moving or parked at the time of the blast, he said. Mehlis said his was a police and judicial investigation that would hand its findings to Lebanon's judiciary, which would decide on further moves and whether to make arrests. He said Lebanon had cooperated and supported his team so far. "Of course we will also investigate how the crime scene was handled, why it was handled in a certain way," he said.
Posted by: Fred || 06/18/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [268 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No doubt Assad could use a good probing. But don't the UN guys typically like them a little younger?
Posted by: SteveS || 06/18/2005 13:18 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Palestinian official meets Rice
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice met Saturday with Palestinian Interior Minister Gen. Nasr Yousef in the West Bank town of Ramallah. An Interior Ministry statement said the two sides discussed efforts to implement Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas' decision to unify the Palestinian security services and to develop their work. The minister also briefed Rice on Palestinian preparations to take control of the territories from which Israel says it will withdraw.

The statement said that Yousef affirmed the Palestinian Authority's insistence on "controlling the security situation and to stop the armed chaos in order to provide security and safety for the Palestinians and to protect the PA's commitments." It added that Rice reiterated the U.S. administration's support for the PA's efforts in restoring security in the Palestinian territories. The statement said the minister also told Rice that Israel should stop its "aggressive measures, collective punishment, settlement activities and the construction of the racist separation barrier." Yousef reportedly said such Israeli measures obstructed the restoration of the Palestinian-Israeli peace process.
Posted by: Fred || 06/18/2005 15:57 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [272 views] Top|| File under:

#1  kinda wasted until the Paleo "volunatray thinning out" occurs, no?
Posted by: Frank G || 06/18/2005 18:18 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
U.S. Marines battle militants in offensive against insurgents
U.S. Marines along with Iraqi troops have opened anther anti-insurgent campaign, this one near Baghdad. Operation Dagger includes about 1,000 Marines and Iraqi troops, backed by fighter jets and tanks. And this one is targeting weapons cache and training sites. Meantime, Operation Spear, continues near the border with Syria. The military says so far that offensive has resulted in the killing of about 50 insurgents.

Elsewhere, the military said two U.S. soldiers transporting a detainee have been killed in an insurgent attack near Baghdad. It said another soldier was wounded and that the detainee and a civilian were killed. And, in Baghdad, a 10-year-old Iraqi girl was killed and two people were injured when a roadside bomb missed a passing American military convoy. Two Iraqis were injured when another roadside bomb missed another U.S. military convoy.
Posted by: Fred || 06/18/2005 15:39 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [346 views] Top|| File under:

#1  a 10-year-old Iraqi girl was killed and two people were injured when a roadside bomb missed a passing American military convoy.

MSM Headine:

American military convoy kills 10 year old Iraqi girl!

(buried deep in article: "by not waiting for a IED to explode.")
Posted by: CrazyFool || 06/18/2005 17:46 Comments || Top||

#2  nothing says "Die you evil bastard" better than deploying American Marines. God be with you, boys, on your appointed rounds
Posted by: Frank G || 06/18/2005 23:16 Comments || Top||


50 killed in US crackdown
Posted by: tipper || 06/18/2005 15:15 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [250 views] Top|| File under:

#1  AFP correspondents... Tag them with smartdust!

Track their every movement with the terrorists.
Posted by: 3dc || 06/18/2005 18:46 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Zawahri calls for jihad, criticises Pakistani government
Al Jazeera television on Friday aired a new videotape of Al Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahri in which he called for more "jihad," and criticised assaults on women protesters in Egypt last month. Al Jazeera said the Egyptian-born Zawahri also slammed the Pakistani, Saudi and Egyptian governments. In the tape, in which he was shown with an assault rifle next to him, Zawahri said "invading (US) forces" would not be expelled from Muslim lands by peaceful demonstrations but by "fighting for the sake of God." Zawahri also urged the Palestinians "not to give up their jihad and not to be dragged into the game of secular elections."

"Real reform" must be based on the rule of Sharia, or Islamic law, he said, with the two other bases being "freedom of Islamic land" and "freedom of the Islamic nation to run its affairs." Zawahri "criticised "the US concept of reform," said Al Jazeera, which aired some of his remarks live while paraphrasing others.
Posted by: Fred || 06/18/2005 00:10 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [264 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sure he didn't call for an Italian Sausage, double cheese?

I just can't feature the Good Dr Zawahrihariwahiri advocating violensness, being a Doc and all.

Al Jizz musta hosed the translation. Prolly that Jiz Khan guy.
Posted by: .com || 06/18/2005 0:50 Comments || Top||

#2  King Mullah says: valid Islamaniac opinions only. No cuss; no dis; no Billy Martin stuff.

Posted by: War on Islam || 06/18/2005 0:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Heh, Billy Martin, that's actually pretty funny. Likin' those new meds, are ya?
Posted by: .com || 06/18/2005 0:59 Comments || Top||

#4  So where's Binny? It's just not the same without him...
Posted by: Rafael || 06/18/2005 1:26 Comments || Top||

#5  Oh shit! Now Al Qaeda's pissed at us?? We MUST be awful.

Seriously, Al Qaeda morons calling for Jihad, is like the boyos in the Frat house callng for a kegger on Saturday night. It's assumed. Oh well, see what the boys in the back-cave will have...
Posted by: Justrand || 06/18/2005 9:54 Comments || Top||

#6  I am curious why he pushes for Sharia. He is known as a pedeophile and a thief. Perhaps he will set a good example and turn himself over to a real Sharia affair and receive the well-deserved justice that he clamours for everyone else. Perhaps his prostrate problem will catch up to him soon and do what Sharia cannot do.
Posted by: Flavins Flineque6690 || 06/18/2005 13:03 Comments || Top||

#7  He wants a jihad, eh? Well, why didn't he say so already? I'm sure millions of Muslims have been sitting on their asses for years just waiting for his request to begin a holy war.
Posted by: Captain Pedantic || 06/18/2005 13:05 Comments || Top||

#8  In the tape, in which he was shown with an assault rifle next to him, Zawahri said...

so wens he gonna pik it up an get him ass on teh feeld and leed by exampel?
Posted by: muck4doo || 06/18/2005 15:27 Comments || Top||

#9  Muck at a certain level having the rifle by yourside is like football coaches wearing cleats.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/18/2005 16:56 Comments || Top||

#10  "Jihad Jihad, Dirka Dirka Bin Ladin"
Posted by: Frank G || 06/18/2005 17:33 Comments || Top||

#11  I assume he is suppose to be in Iran?
Posted by: 3dc || 06/18/2005 18:40 Comments || Top||

#12  BTW... when the hell are we going to play hardball with the camcorder makers and force them to imbed GPS units in camcorders that secretly put the location into the video. (I suggest redundantly as watermarking so it can't be easily seen or removed.)
Posted by: 3dc || 06/18/2005 18:42 Comments || Top||

#13  Damn, Frank---you beat me to it! Just found time to watch the movie last night. Still laughing.
Posted by: Asedwich || 06/18/2005 18:52 Comments || Top||

#14  heheh. yoo see em owt take "ima never be em rasist agayn"?
Posted by: muck4doo || 06/18/2005 21:12 Comments || Top||


'Abdullah Mehsud' chats with press
"Assalamall- aykum," a man said after introducing himself as Abdullah Mehsud, wanted by the government for kidnapping Chinese engineers in October last year, in his calls to media offices in Peshawar and said he would resume his activities. "I was not well and that is why I was silent," said Abdullah who was pronounced dead on March 13 by a caller claiming to be his spokesman.
"I was dead. But I got better."
He did not elaborate his illness nor did he say where he got treatment but only said, "I was in heaven for treatment." The military put Rs 5 million on his head money and asked for information about his whereabouts. His close associate Baitullah Mehsud along with hundreds of fighters had reached a peace deal with the government in February this year when he surrendered to the South Waziristan Political Administration in the Sararogha area. Abdullah said he would continue fighting for an "Islamic system" in Pakistan. "Unless my head is chopped off I will not stop my struggle," Abdullah said on the phone from an undisclosed location.
This article starring:
ABDULLAH MEHSUDWazir Taliban
BAITULLAH MEHSUDWazir Taliban
Posted by: Fred || 06/18/2005 00:09 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [290 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ok... sounds fair. I will volunteer to help him relocate his head in a dignified manner. Perhaps something painless like pork fat injections in his neck and tossed into a pen full of hungry mongrels. A prayer and a card will follow with a symbolic send-off of pig urine sloshed on his body to cleanse it of any vile microbes of decency. Or... he could be force-fed cheeseburgers till he croaks.
Posted by: Flavins Flineque6690 || 06/18/2005 12:59 Comments || Top||


Kashmir Korpse Kount
SRINAGAR, India - Fourteen people have died in a wave of violence in revolt-hit Indian-administered Kashmir, police said on Friday, a day after moderate separatists returned home from a two-week trip to Pakistan.

Indian troops shot dead six terrorist militant infiltrators during a nightlong clash in the Tangdar sector of northern Kupwara district, which borders Pakistan-administered Kashmir, army spokesman Vijay Batra told AFP. "The terrorists militants were asked to surrender but instead opened fire that was returned, killing six of them," he said. Batra said the slain terrorists rebels had infiltrated Indian Kashmir from the Pakistani portion of the disputed region.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/18/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [262 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Moderate separtists???

Is this like coitus interruptus?
Posted by: billy hank || 06/18/2005 13:29 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
U.S. Mounts Offensive Near Syria
American tanks and aircraft obliterated targets today in and around Karabila, a town close to the Syrian border, as about 1,000 marines swept into the area and began the third major offensive over the last two months in Iraq's western desert frontier, military officials said. Karabila, like other towns along the meandering reaches of the Euphrates River in the desert of western Anbar Province, is suspected of being a link in insurgent supply and infiltration routes, the Iraqi equivalent of the Ho Chi Minh Trail.
Obligatory NYT Vietnam reference.
There have also been sporadic hints that Iraq's most-wanted fugitive, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, could be hiding in the area. The military said that American aircraft used precision-guided weapons to bomb buildings occupied by insurgents who were firing on marines and the Iraqi soldiers who accompanied them in the operation. An Abrams tank fired one round at a vehicle believed to be rigged with explosives and destroyed it.

The action, nicknamed Operation Spear, began early today, the military said. Late this afternoon, a spokesman for the 2nd Marine Division, Capt. Jeffrey S. Pool, forwarded a statement saying that the Marines had evacuated four civilian casualties, including two women, to a military medical center for treatment. "There are no other reports of civilian casualties," the statement said. It made no mention of wounded or dead among the insurgents or the American and Iraqi military forces. Karabila, the center of the new offensive, surfaced in press reports on June 11 and 12 after a disputed claim by the American military that precision bombs had destroyed an insurgent checkpoint, purportedly killing 40 of the insurgents. Despite that claim, Reuters quoted local residents who said after the strike that there were no fighters in the area at the time.
"Lies! All lies! Now go away!"
The latest action, nicknamed Operation Spear, involves the First Tank Battalion, the Second Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion and the Second and Fourth Assault Amphibian Battalion, the military said, as well as American aircraft.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/18/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [252 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There have also been sporadic hints that Iraq's most-wanted fugitive, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, could be hiding in the area.

Hiding in the graveyard, no doubt.
Posted by: Jake-the-Peg || 06/18/2005 6:14 Comments || Top||

#2  "An Abrams tank fired one round at a vehicle believed to be rigged with explosives and destroyed it."

Good shooting.
Posted by: billy hank || 06/18/2005 13:45 Comments || Top||


Jets Drop 220kg Bombs in Iraq
US F-16 fighter planes dropped a series of 220 kg bombs on insurgent targets in western Iraq overnight as the US military launched a heavy offensive against rebels near the Syrian border. Nine of the powerful bombs were dropped, the US military said, two of them targeting suspected rebel safe houses near the town of Qaim, an insurgent stronghold on the Euphrates river about 20 km east of Iraq's border with Syria. Four more were aimed at rebels as they fired mortars and assault rifles at US ground forces near Qaim, and a further three were used to hit suspected weapons caches in the area. The airpower was in support of Operation Spear, the third major offensive US forces have launched in western Iraq in the past six weeks with the aim of crushing insurgent activity in the Euphrates valley which stretches northwest to Syria.

"Operation Spear ... began in the early morning hours with the objectives of rooting out insurgents and foreign fighters and disrupting insurgent support systems in and around Karabila," Capt. Jeffrey Pool of the US Marines said in a statement from Ramadi, capital of the surrounding Anbar region. Residents in Karabila, a suburb of Qaim where the suspected weapons caches were targeted, said fierce gunbattles broke out overnight and continued.
Posted by: Fred || 06/18/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [313 views] Top|| File under:

#1  220kg bombs, huh? I'm thinking they were 500 pounders, MK-82's (see pg 3), myself. Took about 45 seconds to verify there's no such critter. ArabNews. Almost like reporting.
Posted by: .com || 06/18/2005 0:34 Comments || Top||

#2  500lbs=226.796185kg
I guess they rounded down, for some reason ;)
Posted by: Rafael || 06/18/2005 1:23 Comments || Top||

#3  In other news, today, Arab News reports that 220 "insurgents" died in fighting in al Anbar Province. Us Military Command, however, stated that 226.796185 bodies were recovered.

Details.
Posted by: .com || 06/18/2005 1:30 Comments || Top||

#4  perhaps Iraq should be split, after all it was never one country except by the arbitrary border-drawing of the British.

It could be a mistake of our pro-multi-culti cultures that thinks it's possible to cobble together a nation out of shitites sunnis and kurds and expect them to live harmoniously with a consensual government.

It only worked under the jackboot of a dictator: why should it work now the threat of force is gone?

Maybe it should just be three countries and maybe this would stop the problems?
Posted by: anon1 || 06/18/2005 4:36 Comments || Top||

#5  I think partition is definitely lurking nearby, anon1. If the Sunnis keep it up - they've been nothing but dead weight when they weren't killing Shi'a clerics or running the "insurgency" - then it will end that way. Agreed that Iraq is a foolish Brit/French confabulation that is no more legitimate than Yugoslavia. If it won't work, and you make the perfect point of the only reason why it didn't disintegrate before now, then there's no overriding reason to try to force it to work.

I don't know if the Shi'a are really ready, they not showing much sense with guys like Jaafari, but sure as hell the Kurds are.
Posted by: .com || 06/18/2005 4:52 Comments || Top||

#6  Kurds deserve their own country. It'd be a nice little thankyou to Turkey, too!

Meanwhile the Iraqi Stock Exchange is open for business at
http://www.isx-iq.net/page/contact.htm

and if i can work out whether the country is going to hang together or not, I will buy some shares. It'll have a great future due to all that oil.

But i just can't see yet whether it will hang together.
Posted by: anon1 || 06/18/2005 5:49 Comments || Top||

#7  I've been thinking the last couple of days(agin)that the U.S. should let the Sunnies know that if the U.S.pulls-out they are on thier own.Without Saddams military and goons they would be at the mercy of the Shias and Kurds,not a nice place to be.
Posted by: raptor || 06/18/2005 9:00 Comments || Top||

#8  I think we should just flatten all sunni areas to give the revenge minded Shites and Kurds a head start.
Posted by: JackAssFestival || 06/18/2005 10:33 Comments || Top||

#9  Hope they could hear/feel those bombs in Syria
Posted by: Frank G || 06/18/2005 11:47 Comments || Top||

#10  On the other hand there is virtue to a Federal system that puts faction against faction and ensures that no tyranny can easily arise again. Witness the USA, and Switzerland. In both cases there are large groups of people who think they'd be (or would have been) better off if they could set up their own tyranny while splitting from the rest of the country.

Long term, we're better off with a federal Iraq, where both minorities and majorities have learnt to live with each other and prosper in freedom and trade. A free and prosperous Iraq ought to be our modern Japan in the Middle East.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 06/18/2005 11:55 Comments || Top||

#11  True, Raptor, that's the ideal. I just don't know if it is possible.

After all, Japan KNEW it was beaten. We crushed their spirit. Iraq doesn't feel beaten, we just deposed Saddam for them.

Plus we OCCUPIED Japan but we just try to keep the peace in Iraq: there's a big difference.
Posted by: anon1 || 06/18/2005 13:15 Comments || Top||

#12  I think partitioning Iraq has always been a fallback plan. The Shiites get theirs, the Kurds get their well-deserved part and for you Sunnis, well, not only do you get squat, but you have to deal with the 30 years of enmity and ill will you generated under Sadaam. Bummer, doods!

A strong, federated Iraq will be an example to the rest of the foo'ed up Middle East. I think it is starting to work, although you would not know it from the mainstream news. Some things that convince me: One is the increasing involvement of Iraqis in their own security. The other is the locals starting to rat out the jihadis over and over. The third is the Sunnis splitting into two camps; one the Death-to-Everyone crowd and the other the people who are finally realizing that deliberately refusing to participate in the political process is to be forever marginalized.
Posted by: SteveS || 06/18/2005 13:15 Comments || Top||

#13  The Sunnis better think about getting along. They need to look at their resource base. Oilfields in the north, oilfleids and marine terminal in the south. They ain't got squat except the rivers, so they just have farming. Cut off Baghdad's power and they are shiite outa luck. It's get along or game over for the Sunnis. They better grow a brain quick. The smart ones better get the dumb ones in line.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 06/18/2005 16:11 Comments || Top||

#14  The 220 kg is probably one of our new 250lb bombs. I read awhile back that we had deployed a couple with GPS to minimize damage to the surrounding civilians. could be aljazeera mistake or maybe the above dont know.

On the splitting the country I believe a real bad idea yes the shia and kurd areas will be happy but the shia by themselves I would give a very likly chance to go Iran style and the Kurds would be better more free and democratic but the sunni part would just go Afghanistan pre US invasion. I say force them together the Kurd will keep the Shia honest and in the middle ground while the kurd and shia together will either accept the sunni capitulation or when we pull out their will be a 2maybe 3month blood lust with the then capitulation of what is left of the sunni. I would be willing to bet their is huge files of tribes and Imans and names of sunnis that are involved or suspected of involvement in the Terrorism but either to contriversial or not enough evidence for the US to make a grab. When the Iraqi army gets strong enough to let the bulk of our men pull back for some R&R if things are not cooled off I would expect those files being cleaned out literaly. The way nations fight war not the bullshit way we do what changed between WW2 and today to make it were we can be called nazis because we hold enemy captured out of uniform in a active war and held in a tropical paradise in AC with Koran and special food WTF happened to this country. In WW2 I believe the infiltrators we captured in FL from Germany were hung quick trial some would say just kangaroo trial and of course the german soldgiers that were caught then executed during the battle of the buldge out of uniform causing caous in the rear or the Wearewolves who were caught after the war and executed yeah we were humane we gave them a blindfold and a cigarette before we shot them. Were we Nazis then??? What about the cities after the end of the war we shelled with artilary becuase when our forces went in one werewolf shot at a soldgier or what about how in one city when a werewolf assasin killed a US soldgier we just simply rounded up 10nazi soldgiers in the city and shot them to make a example. Yeah that is war that is how you win a war the Sunnis are still either activly resiting or staying quit becuase why risk it the terrorist will kill you the US will go out of thier way not to kill you even thou you live right next door to a car bomb factory. I say when we find a car bomb factory level the whole damm block becuase I garantee the neighbors knew something was going on. Maybe then next time thier cousin saw some weird activity he would call it in cause those crazy barbarian americans may come level his house which is next door. I am not saying kill everyone just that the assesories even if they just knew but didnt say something should be punished aswell especially in the Sunni area were it is so rampant. The tips we are getting now are the same incentive the only difference just thank god we fighting a retarted enemy that is killing the people they need support of becuase they are easier targets.
Posted by: C-Low || 06/18/2005 16:22 Comments || Top||

#15  In other news, today, Arab News reports that 220 "insurgents" died in fighting in al Anbar Province

Or maybe it was 220 insurgents dropped from the F-16. Not sure which I would prefer...a 500 pounder dropped on one insurgent, or one insurgent dropped from 10,000 feet. Tough call.
Posted by: Rafael || 06/18/2005 16:52 Comments || Top||

#16  less collateral in dropping the asshole from 10K
Posted by: Frank G || 06/18/2005 18:43 Comments || Top||

#17  There's a hard point rack under each wing, Rafael. I do believe you can do both ...
Posted by: Steve White || 06/18/2005 18:51 Comments || Top||

#18  Can't even consider a breakup without redesigning the road system. Take a look at it. A minimal spanning tree with key nodes in Sunni towns.

If you look at it more closely. The best grid to lay on it would be a hex grid as most current roads are angles on the spanning tree.

It really needs alternate road grid. In addition it would make it impossible for IED's to ever have a big effect on transport.
Posted by: 3dc || 06/18/2005 18:54 Comments || Top||

#19  Absolutely, what 3DC said. Obvious to the most causal bystander.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/18/2005 19:44 Comments || Top||

#20  BTW I've been hacking down spanning trees most of the afternoon. Got the scratches to prove it.


/tasteful glossies on request, no toast or engineers pls.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/18/2005 19:47 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Clashes in Egypt Leave Two Dead
EL-ARISH, Egypt (AP) - Egyptian security forces in the Sinai mountains clashed Friday with suspects in deadly attacks last year on Red Sea resorts. Security officials said a soldier and a fugitive were killed and four other soldiers were wounded. They said the slain fugitive was suspected of helping to plot the October attacks in the Red Sea resorts of Taba and Ras Shitan.

The clashes occurred as hundreds of security forces, backed up by tanks, fanned out in the Halal mountains of central Sinai. The forces have pursuing suspects in the Sinai hills for months. In February, three suspects were killed in gunbattles. At least one wanted militant is still at large.

Last week, Israel posted a travel warning that cautioned its citizens not to visit Egypt, particularly the Sinai peninsula. It said there was an increased threat of terror attacks.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/18/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [243 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Travel recommended only in battalion strength. See below.
Posted by: billy hank || 06/18/2005 13:43 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Police free eight suspects held for KFC attack
Police said on Friday they had released eight Shia Muslims who were arrested last week for an arson attack on an outlet of US fast-food chain KFC which left six employees dead. Police failed to collect sufficient evidence against the detainees, who are linked to the outlawed Shia militant group Tehreek-e-Jafaria Pakistan, Karachi police chief Tariq Jamil told AFP. "They were arrested on suspicion of involvement (in the blast). However, no direct evidence was found against any of them and they were freed," he said. Police will now launch a fresh search for those people responsible for the deadly attack, he said. "The case has not been closed."
Posted by: Fred || 06/18/2005 00:02 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [252 views] Top|| File under:


Nuggets from the Urdu Press
Saudis arrest 40 Pakistani Christians
According to the daily Pakistan, Saudi police arrested 40 men, women and children from a house in Riyadh while they were in the process of praying. The Saudi police took the position that one priest was actually preaching Christianity, which is banned in the Kingdom. Nawa-e-Waqt editorialised that Christians must have got into Riyadh by using false Muslim names. There was a trend in Pakistan that Christians were using Muslim names. That is why it was important to declare religion in the passport, so that Christians and Qadianis would not be able to get into Saudi Arabia by deceit.

Woman stoned in Badakhshan
Writing in the daily Pakistan, Tanvir Qaiser Shahid stated that in President Karzai's Afghanistan, a judge in the province of Badakhshan had awarded the sentence of being stoned to death, to a woman accused of fornication. The woman was seen entering the house of a man, after which another man locked the house from the outside and called in witnesses. The judge awarded death to the woman and 100 lashes to the man. The woman was duly stoned and killed.

Is a test tube baby an act of 'zina'?
According to the Nawa-e-Waqt, the Lahore High Court acquired the services of the famous pro-blasphemy law lawyer Ismail Qureshi to resolve the issue of test tube babies. The matter before the court was: is a test tube baby Islamic? Another question was that when two unrelated persons produce a test tube baby, is it zina punishable by death in Islam?

Muslims and electric shocks from God
Columnist Hamid Sultan wrote in the Nawa-e-Waqt that Pakistan's economy was being run on rules made in America. Zakat was being taken from the poor but there was no zakat on property, and therefore the rich who did not keep savings accounts were exempted from zakat. He stated that the Holy Quran had clear rules about the rise and fall of nations, but God was not in despair about Muslims. He was simply administering shocks to them, just as patients who are expected to live are given electric shocks.

Islamic Council on Basant and St Valentine's Day
According to the Nawa-e-Waqt, the Council for Islamic Ideology recommended that the government should not take part in two festivals: Basant because it was a Hindu festival, and Valentine's Day because it was a non-Islamic festival. The Council said that some members of the Council were of the opinion that Basant was a seasonal festival and not a Hindu festival, but the majority called it a Hindu festival. The Council rejected Basant on the analogy of Jewish rejection of the fast of 10th Muharram. Only two festivals were allowed in Islam: the two Eids.

Slaves of English!
Reported by the Nawa-e-Waqt, an ex-vice chancellor of the University of the Punjab said that Pakistanis used to be slaves of 'the English,' now they were slaves of English. He added that Urdu should be made a compulsory language, after which English could be learned as a second language. He said religious seminaries were being neglected.

Second marriage shouldn't be punished
According to Khabrain, lawyers were divided on the recent judicial opinion that those who marry again without the consent of the first wife should be punished with a fine and ten years in jail. The Islamists said that a second marriage was a right, and permission from the first wife was not needed. Other lawyers thought that the consent of the first wife was already a law and should be obeyed. They said 80 per cent of all second marriages were unsuccessful. Lady lawyers said that polygamy had become a fashion.

Rao Sikandar versus the Punjab government
According to the Nawa-e-Waqt, federal defence minister Rao Sikandar lost his cool when at Okara, the Punjab government tried to prevent him from going close to President Musharraf. He felt insulted and punched an SSP on the stage. Later the Punjab government held an inquiry against the SSP but found the defence minister culpable of bad behaviour.

Sectarian violence in Gilgit
Writing in Khabrain, Sohail Zafar stated that federal education minister General (Retd) Javed Ashraf Qazi had put an end to a year-long violent fight in Gilgit by getting both parties (Shia and Sunni ulema) to agree that a different syllabus would be taught in Gilgit. The trouble started when in 1996, the government changed the separate syllabi for the two sects and forced them to read the same books. Gilgit went sect-crazy in the 1980s when jihadis entered the agency. They entered Sinkiang in China and caused bloodshed there, in addition to starting the sectarian war in Gilgit. Before the 2002 elections, the MMA sent its ulema to Gilgit where they aroused sectarian passions.

Ikhwan rising in Egypt
Writing in the Nawa-e-Waqt, Jamaat-e-Islami leader Hafiz Idrees stated that Ikhwan al Muslimun was banned from taking part in elections in Egypt but it was making headway into elective institutions through anonymity. In the present parliament, there were at least 36 Ikhwan members without a party label. In recent elections to Cairo's bar council, the group of lawyers representing Ikhwan dominates, led by the son of the great Ikhwan founder, Hassan Al Banna, Saiful Islam Al Banna. Hafiz Idrees was perplexed by the Ikhwan leader Muhammad Habib, when he approved of Hosni Mubarak's son taking part in elections. America was now considering contacting the Ikhwan.

'I will destroy theatre!'
Leader of the MMA in Gujranwala Qazi Hamidullah was quoted in Khabrain as saying that if a cinema was converted into theatre in Okara, he would personally go there and destroy the theatre. He had just come out of prison after being bailed out in a case of attacking a marathon race in Gujranwala. He said he would go on struggling till all fahashi was finished. He said the PMLN could join the MMA. He added that PPPP and PML were old rivals (saukan) and Musharraf should choose to cohabit with one out of the two.

Destroyer of all marathons!
Quoted in the Nawa-e-Waqt, JUI MNA Gujranwala Qazi Hamidullah said that he was a destroyer of marathons and would go anywhere to disrupt them in the name of Islam. He said that the MMA was to become the strongest force in Pakistan next year or 2007, when the next elections are held.

George Fulton and Samiul Haq
Columnist Irfan Siddiqi wrote in the Nawa-e-Waqt that after Maulana Samiul Haq was maltreated in Belgium and the EU as part of Pakistan's parliamentary delegation, UK citizen George Fulton was given full citizenship of Pakistan by Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz on the basis of 66 per cent public endorsement. The writer said that Samiul Haq should now invite Fulton to his seminary in Akora Khattak and show the EU that he was more enlightened (roshan khayal).
Posted by: Fred || 06/18/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [241 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Kinda' like an assorted box of nuts, each with a creamy lunacy center.
Posted by: billy hank || 06/18/2005 13:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Another question was that when two unrelated persons produce a test tube baby, is it zina punishable by death in Islam?

ummm. thisn meen like em father-dawter thing okay? how bowt ifn ones notta pursun?
Posted by: muck4doo || 06/18/2005 15:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Qazi said that he was a destroyer of marathons and would go anywhere to disrupt them in the name of Islam.

Let me be the first to formally invite Qazi to come to Washington DC on October 30, where he can demonstrate his mad marathon destroying skillz at the Marine Corps Marathon. Hooah!
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/18/2005 15:35 Comments || Top||

#4  Sea - Lol! 'Course he'd bee too busy shopping (Searching for a red fez?) to do any marathon destroying, lol.
Posted by: .com || 06/18/2005 15:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Duh. typo'd link. Here it is.
Posted by: .com || 06/18/2005 15:45 Comments || Top||

#6  What a weak friggin religion that it has to be so intolerant of others. Cowards, thugs who hide behind women and children - that's our Religion of Peace™
Posted by: Frank G || 06/18/2005 16:59 Comments || Top||

#7  Frank, when the feminine ideal weighs 100 kilos, that's a lot of woman to hide behind. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/18/2005 22:10 Comments || Top||



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