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2005-01-14 Southeast Asia
US supports Aceh exit deadline
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Posted by God Save The World 2005-01-14 4:49:47 PM|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Given yesterday’s Daily Press Briefing from the U.S. Department of State, I’d say the “hostile, ungrateful Indonesia” theme is a MSM creation. Anything to boost sales and circulation, eh? An excerpt:
QUESTION: Richard, could you explain why the U.S. feels it is so important, despite obvious concerns that the Indonesians have about the foreign military presence there, if they're saying, look, we don't need any more help, we'll be able to handle this on our own, why the U.S. believes it needs to tell the Indonesians that you need to stay?
MR. BOUCHER: They're not saying that.
QUESTION: Yeah, they are. I mean, you know, I spoke to --
MR. BOUCHER: No, they're not.
QUESTION: Richard, the Vice President was very clear in his statement yesterday, the Indonesians --
MR. BOUCHER: I just spent five minutes explaining our discussions with the Vice President.
QUESTION: I understand that. I was listening to you.
MR. BOUCHER: But the Indonesians are not saying we don't need the help, go home.
QUESTION: They are.
MR. BOUCHER: No, they're not.
QUESTION: Yeah, Richard --
MR. BOUCHER: They are not saying it to us. We are talking to them directly. We are talking to them every day on the ground in the operations.
QUESTION: But they're making public statements. They're making --
MR. BOUCHER: They're not saying it to us. They're not saying to anybody involved in this relief operation, "That's fine. Go home." When they do, when they can take care of it, that's fine, we'll go home.
QUESTION: So when the Indonesian Vice President says -- or, excuse me, the Foreign Minister says, we will be able to handle this as of March 26th, foreign military and aid groups can leave, how do you interpret that?
MR. BOUCHER: That is not what he said to us when we asked him about it. We asked him about his public remarks and he gave us an explanation that I've just passed on to you. That's what he says.
QUESTION: So you're saying that they are not giving the U.S. an explicit --
MR. BOUCHER: No one is asking us to go home.
Posted by cingold 2005-01-14 1:00:25 AM||   2005-01-14 1:00:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Sounds to me like the MSM has it's own agenda. I would bet that agenda is to make this look bad for Bush and US aid no matter what.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-01-14 2:07:32 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com]  2005-01-14 2:07:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Bingo SPoD.
According to those nitwits, anything the US military can do, the UN can do better. Except of course get there and behave respectfully.
Posted by JerseyMike 2005-01-14 7:50:04 AM||   2005-01-14 7:50:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Cingold, Thanks, you've been on top of this.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-14 8:22:23 AM||   2005-01-14 8:22:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 The entire "gratitude" thing is a ruse. Americans give because that IS who we are, not because we require something in return.
Posted by Captain America  2005-01-14 9:15:32 AM||   2005-01-14 9:15:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 The entire "gratitude" thing is a ruse. Americans give because that IS who we are, not because we require something in return.

It would be nice tho, to hear good words about our efforts from the recipients. All the badmouthing of the U.S. that makes it into print has gotten rather tiresome as of late.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-01-14 11:02:07 AM||   2005-01-14 11:02:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Most of the bad mouthing is from the MSM or previouslty know craptards. No big deal.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-01-14 11:11:35 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com]  2005-01-14 11:11:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 cingold - That sequence certainly seems to sum it up. Amazing density. Thx!
Posted by .com 2005-01-14 11:13:33 AM||   2005-01-14 11:13:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 It isn't an MSM thing. If the story was overblown, that's one thing. The fact is that the Vice Pres of Indonesia said what he said.

On Fox, I heard President Bush saying that the US realizes that the Indonesian people are grateful, I realized that this now is going to be the story for the MSM. Smooth some feathers, oil some skids. I'm sure most Indonesians are appreciative; too bad it's not a complete picture. We have decided to yield to be liked. The alternative possibility is simply too hot to touch.
Posted by Jules 187 2005-01-14 11:14:29 AM||   2005-01-14 11:14:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Agreed, the bullshit is MSM inspired. First they bitched because Bush wasn't fast enough, then they bitch because there isn't enough gratitude shown. What a crock of hot, steamy bullshit.

There have been interviews on Fox News where victims have stated very positive things about America, but you won't hear it from the MSM.

They are too freaking cynical. And it doesn't play into their agenda.
Posted by Captain America  2005-01-14 5:57:29 PM||   2005-01-14 5:57:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Just checking back after a long day out of the office. I, too, wouldn't mind a little balance. I don't doubt that some f*3kt@rds in Indonesia are talking crap, but 1) they are the decided minority, and 2) they do not represent the official Indonesian position (e.g., kind of like Kerry negotiating with the N. Vietnamese). Ever since the tsunami disaster, the official Indonesian statements have uniformly been full of gratitude, like the following:
PRESS RELEASE No.: 03/PEN/I/2005
**snip**
Today, Acting Leader of the Australian Labour Party, Senator Chris Evans has visited the Embassy of the Republic of Indonesia for formally expressing the condolences and sympathies of the Australian Labour Party to the Indonesian government and its people, as well as the victims of the recent natural disaster in the Provinces of Nanggroe Aceh Darussalam and North Sumatra.
**snip**
On behalf of the Indonesian government, H.E. Mr. lmron Cotan conveyed his appreciation for the commitment of assistance offered by the Australian Labour Party, and is looking forward to working closely with the Australian Labour Party and the Australian government for the relief, rehabilitation and reconstruction programs in the affected areas.

Canberra, 10 January 2005
And
PRESS RELEASE No. 94/PR/XII/2004
**snip**
The Government of Indonesia highly appreciates the humanitarian assistance pledged and dispatched by friendly countries from all over the world as well as by international organizations, NGOs, and even individuals.
**snip**
Jakarta, 30 December 2004
Posted by cingold 2005-01-14 8:55:57 PM||   2005-01-14 8:55:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 
First they bitched because Bush wasn't fast enough, then they bitch because there isn't enough gratitude shown. What a crock of hot, steamy bullshit.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-01-14 9:04:59 PM||   2005-01-14 9:04:59 PM|| Front Page Top

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