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2004-02-03 Middle East

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Posted by Dar 2004-02-03 12:05:50 PM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 So.. what has Islam or any islamic nation contributed to advance medicine again?

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-2-3 12:21:17 PM|| 2004-2-3 12:21:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Practice?

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-2-3 1:01:56 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-2-3 1:01:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Practice?

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-2-3 1:02:22 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-2-3 1:02:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 LOL.... right twice.

Posted by Shipman 2004-2-3 3:24:41 PM|| 2004-2-3 3:24:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 cheap shots,... but hey... why not?

Posted by doc 2004-2-3 3:25:12 PM|| 2004-2-3 3:25:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 My Dad was an orthopedic surgeon who experimented with using superglue in a form of alternative treatment of slipped discs: Normally, the collapsed cartilage disk is removed and the two adjacent rings of the spine are fused, creating an abnormally long segment in the spine that makes the spine less flexible. My dad removed the disk and a ring, and used superglue to bind the remaining disk and ring together after drilling out a bigger hole for the nerves coming out from the column: His research showed that the spinal column would shrink in two days. He had great success with patients reporting no pain after the second day.

His big problem was with patients reporting that they had no pain after the second day. They'd immediately engage in strenuous activity instead of resting for a week to let the cartiage and bone fuse, and ruptured the seal between them. He'd have to go in, remove the disk, and fuse the bones per standard procedure.

His biggest peeve, until he died, was a patient who didn't listen to their doctor...

Posted by Ptah 2004-2-3 3:28:07 PM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2004-2-3 3:28:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 "what has Islam or any islamic nation contributed to advance medicine again?"

Gosh, CF, that seems a little harsh. After all, a millennium ago, Islamic science and medicine was state of the art. Of course, they have slacked off a little in the intervening ten centuries and if you were sick it would behoove you to find a western-trained doctor who believed in things like the germ theory of disease and antibiotics.

Still, Islam has provided us with a whole bunch of scientific and astronomical names that start with "al". Words like Aldebaran, alcohol, alchemy and of course, that joint in your arm, the albow.

Posted by SteveS 2004-2-3 3:44:16 PM|| 2004-2-3 3:44:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 week to let the cartiage and bone fuse,
Did he ever use a cast or someother way to enforce a period of rest? His idea sounds obvious and therefore part genius.

Posted by Shipman 2004-2-3 4:44:57 PM|| 2004-2-3 4:44:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Yes and they inspired the Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner by inventing the Al Batross.

Posted by Shipman 2004-2-3 4:48:21 PM|| 2004-2-3 4:48:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 That would mean that they invented Al Gore, and therefore the internet!

Posted by BH 2004-2-3 4:52:38 PM|| 2004-2-3 4:52:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Al right, that's enough...

Posted by Dave D. 2004-2-3 5:17:18 PM|| 2004-2-3 5:17:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 SteveS

Could you stop this PC bullshit, please?

A millenium ago so called Islamic medicine was living on the discoveries of a) The Greeks, Babylonians and others (just remember that during all history before 1000AD East mediterranean had been more advanced than West) b) Contacts with China and India c) The Christians, Jews and some Muslims who were notorious unbelievers. But with the completion of Islamization the Christians and Jews were either absorbed, deported or exterminated and after the closure of Ijtihad sceptic Muslims were no longer tolerated. That meant scientific activity virtually disappeared. But scientific production by really Muslim societies (ie not in transition after conquest) is about zero. As in nothing.

Posted by JFM 2004-2-3 5:28:44 PM|| 2004-2-3 5:28:44 PM|| Front Page Top

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