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2008-02-13 Fifth Column

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Posted by Bobby 2008-02-13 06:14|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 boycott Berkeley and cut off their funds. Let em support themselves by eating code pink

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-02-13 07:12|| 2008-02-13 07:12|| Front Page Top

#2 Set up a green zone in downtown Berkeley.

Posted by SR-71">SR-71 2008-02-13 07:25|| 2008-02-13 07:25|| Front Page Top

#3 When you act like infants and throw a tantrum, expect to get your little behind red. It's done in love, not hate :)

How's this for a strategy - Grow Up!

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-02-13 07:27|| 2008-02-13 07:27|| Front Page Top

#4 Of course they do. We knew it all along...
Caved like the pussies that they are...

Posted by tu3031 2008-02-13 08:27|| 2008-02-13 08:27|| Front Page Top

#5 And now...ON TO TOLEDO!!!

Posted by tu3031 2008-02-13 08:27|| 2008-02-13 08:27|| Front Page Top

#6 Cant find info, did they revoke the Code Pinko blamket permit? If not, same shit different day.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2008-02-13 08:58|| 2008-02-13 08:58|| Front Page Top

#7 Sounds to me like not much has changed at all...

The Berkeley City Council attempted to make nice with U.S. Marines recruiters Wednesday morning by taking back a letter it planned to send calling the Corps 'uninvited and unwelcome intruders' in the city.

But a motion to formally apologize failed.

Instead the City Council with a 7-2 vote at 1 a.m. sought to clarify one of its Jan. 29 Marines motions with new language that recognizes "the recruiters' right to locate in our city and the right of others to protest or support their presence."

The new statement also said the council opposes "the recruitment of our young people into this war."

The council heard testimony from about 100 people who came from as far away as Colorado to weigh in on the issue.

At the same time, the council let stand four other items it passed at its previous meeting, including one encouraging "all people to avoid cooperation with the Marine Corps recruiting station," another asking the city attorney to investigate whether the recruiting station is breaking the city's law against discrimination based on sexual orientation and two items giving the peace group Code Pink a free weekly parking space and sound permit to protest at the Shattuck Avenue recruiting station once a week.

Posted by tu3031 2008-02-13 09:00|| 2008-02-13 09:00|| Front Page Top

#8 Not good enough. Citizens - and especially their elected representatives - attempting to impede the lawful operation of the military in time of war should be tried for sedition.

Posted by Excalibur 2008-02-13 09:12|| 2008-02-13 09:12|| Front Page Top

#9 They now say they oppose the war in Iraq but support the troops.

Bullshit.

You spit on every soldier that served in Iraq and especially the ones that died there. You are all seditionists and traitors. Pull all funding from Berkeley, especially the DoD funding. Being broke and unemployed can really change an attitude.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2008-02-13 09:33|| 2008-02-13 09:33|| Front Page Top

#10 I don't agree at all what the city of Berkely did. However, I think this is one of those situations where they did that on purpose to get attention. You do realize that they want to see this big backlash against them. This is Berkeley's way of getting media attention on publicity. I thin the best thing to do is to not give them the benefit of being i the headlines and just simply ignore them! Who honestly cares what a bunch of dumb ass old hippies do in Berkley. They are babies who want attention and Im not going to give them any!

Posted by WTF? 2008-02-13 09:36|| 2008-02-13 09:36|| Front Page Top

#11 We don't need to pay attention, but we don't need to give them federal funds either.

Posted by Deadeye Cromong4699 2008-02-13 10:08|| 2008-02-13 10:08|| Front Page Top

#12 Pay attention; they need to hear other voices! Form the January 30 edition of The 'Burg:
Mayor and Council members email addresses. Be courteous, but be faithfull to our brave young marines.

mayor@ci.berkeley.ca.us,
lmaio@ci.berkeley.ca.us,
dmoore@ci.berkeley.ca.us,
manderson@ci.berkeley.ca.us,
spring@ci.berkeley.ca.us,
lcapitelli@ci.berkeley.ca.us,
olds@ci.berkeley.ca.us,
kworthington@ci.berkeley.ca.us,
gwozniak@ci.berkeley.ca.us

They're headed in the right direction; they just got miles to go before they sleep.

I e-mailed the whole lot of them on the 31st, and I'm gonna do it again today.

Posted by Bobby 2008-02-13 11:59|| 2008-02-13 11:59|| Front Page Top

#13 From the link at an earlier post:
But tonight, the city is likely to host the mother of all meetings in its recent history. Councilman Gordon Wozniak, who opposed the council's actions two weeks ago on the recruiting station, said he received 26,000 e-mails on the subject in the past 10 days (24,000 supporting the Marines, 2,000 against), and he is just one of nine council members.

"On a hot issue, we sometimes get a couple hundred e-mails," Wozniak said. "I've never seen anything like this. I'm getting one every five minutes. It's huge."

Here's hoping it continues to be huge.

Posted by Bobby 2008-02-13 12:19|| 2008-02-13 12:19|| Front Page Top

#14 At stake:

$2.3 million in federal earmarks

$2.3 million in local transportation funds

Posted by Pappy 2008-02-13 12:20|| 2008-02-13 12:20|| Front Page Top

#15 There has been coverage of this on Blackfive. This whole incident becomes a battle for the fundamental principles of how we conduct business in our Republic. Here is what I commented there:

I went to UC Berkeley, 1966 through 1970, and obtained a BS in Civil Engineering. Despite riots, sit-ins, national guard, barb wire, tear gas, etc etc, I did get an excellent education. I was back in Berkeley 12 years ago, and I had enough. The actions of the city government in the case of the Marines recruiting office is your free introductory offer into what leftists and marxists have to offer.....more of the same, scaled up.

Regardless of one's political feelings about the Marines, they have the right to rent office space. People have a right to go there and conduct their business. It is against the law to chain an exit on a facility open to the public during business hours. The Fire Marshal has a legal right to have those perpetrators arrested for doing so.

I think that the Marines have a perfect legal right to get some bolt cutters and remove any chains or cables blocking the entrance to their business. Those doors and entrances are private property, belonging to the landlord.

As with the Haditha Marines case, this is a fundamental issue that the Bush Administration has absolutely failed to engage. When Rep. Jack Murtha shot off his mouth and smeared the Marines in public statements, the President and Sec. Def. Rumsfeld said NOTHING. They needed to say that the allegations of murder w/r/t Haditha are serious charges and will be handled through the established military justice system. They needed to say that Jack Murtha was out of line with statements made to the media, and he, as a United States Senator, should know better. His actions could seriously compromise justice. But nothing was said.

Similarly, the President or the Attorney General needs to say that a Federal recruiting office in Berkeley, California is being blocked by individuals, and the local police appear to not be enforcing local laws. Individuals seeking to do business with the Marine recruiters are not being allowed to exercise their civil rights, which are guaranteed by the US Constitution. In light of this situation, the President is directing that the Justice Department immediately investigate this situation to see if Federal Law is being violated, and if so, arrest those individuals committing those crimes.

Not doing so is giving into lawlessness, and in effect sanctioning the actions of Code Pink, the Berkeley City Council, and the Berkeley Police Department. If the government does not protect the people, then the people will protect themselves, and Americans are good at that when they are pi$$ed off enough. We do not want to go there. And the Code Pink folks do not want to go there, for sure.

This is another battlefield of an age-old war against tyranny and lawlessness. One cannot walk away from this one. It has to be engaged. The tactics are different than Guadalcanal, or other great battles, but the stakes are just as high.

Sorry for the long rant, but this whole thing brings back very bad memories of my Berkeley days.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2008-02-13 13:24|| 2008-02-13 13:24|| Front Page Top

#16 Sorry, non-apology apologies are too complicated for us bestial kiddie-killers.

Posted by mojo">mojo 2008-02-13 13:29|| 2008-02-13 13:29|| Front Page Top

#17 The Fire Marshal has a legal right to have those perpetrators arrested for doing so.

Responsibility, I'd say.

Posted by lotp 2008-02-13 13:29|| 2008-02-13 13:29|| Front Page Top

#18 And I utterly agree with you re: the administration's failure to deal with this firmly and with a clear statement of the constitutional issues at stake AP.

I haven't exactly heard McCain speaking up on this, either.

Posted by lotp 2008-02-13 13:30|| 2008-02-13 13:30|| Front Page Top

#19 UC-Berkeley wants no part of this, AP...

Chancellor to legislators: UC Berkeley and city are separate entities

From Public Affairs | 12 February 2008

BERKELEY Chancellor Birgeneau has written to 52 elected officials in Washington, D.C., to clear up an incorrect notion that the UC Berkeley campus has any connection to actions taken by the Berkeley City Council.

The letter was in response to a measure introduced in Congress that mistakenly links the campus with the city council's actions against U.S. Marine recruiting in downtown Berkeley.

In his letter the chancellor makes the following points:

The campus is a completely separate entity from the city of Berkeley.
UC Berkeley has long-standing ROTC programs, dating back to 1870.
Military recruiters from all branches of the service are welcome on campus and frequently participate in career events at UC Berkeley.
The campus, and the UC system, make special efforts to assist active members of the military, their dependents, and veterans who attend the university, including granting financial aid and other preferences.

In conclusion, the chancellor states that he believes the initial action by the city council was "ill advised, intemperate, and hurtful, particularly to the young men and women and their families who are sacrificing so much for our country."

We think they're dirty friggin commie hippies too. So please keep us on that federal gravy train. thank you.

Posted by tu3031 2008-02-13 13:43|| 2008-02-13 13:43|| Front Page Top

#20 heh...as you said, tu, they caved like the kitty cats that they are. They are the children who never matured past the stage of adolescence. Throw a tantrum until mommy threatens to cut off their allowance and then they act so sweet.

They will be sucking on the teat and making themselves feel tough by taunting safe "enemies" behind mommy's apron strings until the day they die.

Posted by Grailing and Tenille1838 2008-02-13 14:49|| 2008-02-13 14:49|| Front Page Top

#21 Now remind me again where the lefties would be if this was an abortion clinic and the protesters were radical right-to-lifers doing exactly the same thing? It's about POWER, not principle.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-02-13 17:18|| 2008-02-13 17:18|| Front Page Top

#22 I think Berserkeley should get a LOT of attention. The best attention we could give them would be a flight of four B-1s at 500 feet, flying at supersonic speed, with ALL the electronics running, including the jammers. I'm sure the entire city of Berkeley would know they'd been there, and probably remember it for decades.

In the immortal words of Mark Twain, there are many ways to skin a cat, and none of them are pleasant to the cat.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2008-02-13 17:51|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2008-02-13 17:51|| Front Page Top

#23 One day coming soon, we will all wake up or overhear a conversation that starts "Wow, did you hear about the quake in California?" And we will turn to the TV's and live through 4,5,6 days of coverage about how every east west highway into the East Bay is broken, the primary hospitals(Alta Bates?) are demolished and an outbreak of urban zombies has decended upon the city of Berkeley. At that time, as the wailing masses beg for protection and the "restoration of civil order", the people huddled in the streets waving "Uncle Sam Help save us" signs to the circling news helicopters, I will remember the circus of 2008.

Posted by Capsu78 2008-02-13 18:46|| 2008-02-13 18:46|| Front Page Top

#24 I used to get a nice bound newsletter from the University periodically as an alumunus. After affirmative action was struck down, the Chancellor wrote in the newsletter that some way must be found to accommodate gae, le$bian, and tran$jender individuals (in effect to get around the elimination of affirmative action). Now I don't care how you handle or put your tools, but what was this doing in the newsletter in the first place? And from the Chancellor? That is PC Dhimmi crap.

The City of Berkeley needs federal civil rights lawsuits from every one that tried to go to that recruiting station. The Governor of the State of Cal-ee-fohrn-ya needs to enforce the law. The City needs to be hammered with criminal and civil actions that will bring them down. If the citizens of the City of Berkeley don't like that, they better get off their Proletarian Posteriors and throw the City Council out.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2008-02-13 20:05|| 2008-02-13 20:05|| Front Page Top

#25 frankly, I hope a stray molotov gets to those chaining themselves to the front door. I love free-range chicken

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-02-13 20:42|| 2008-02-13 20:42|| Front Page Top

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