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2005-02-20 Home Front: Politix
Secret Bush tapes revealed
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Posted by tipper 2005-02-20 00:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Sounds to me like this guy should be prosecuted.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2005-02-20 2:01:15 AM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2005-02-20 2:01:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I would suspect that prosecuting him or suing him would give him credibility he does not deserve.
Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-02-20 3:39:02 AM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]  2005-02-20 3:39:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 The tape disclosures won't enlighten anybody. Who needs this crap?
Posted by IToldYouSo 2005-02-20 4:01:10 AM||   2005-02-20 4:01:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 PF: I would suspect that prosecuting him or suing him would give him credibility he does not deserve.

Credibility? This guy taped a private conversation without authorization. I believe that's a felony. Do felons have a lot of credibility? Good question. At the very least, convicting him would subject the earnings from his book to seizure.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2005-02-20 4:35:42 AM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2005-02-20 4:35:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 IIUC, recording a conversation is legal provided at least one party has given their consent - it's the same in the UK.
Posted by Bulldog  2005-02-20 4:43:56 AM||   2005-02-20 4:43:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 With some exceptions:

"12 states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation. Those jurisdictions are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington."
Posted by Bulldog  2005-02-20 4:45:07 AM||   2005-02-20 4:45:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 it depends if these were telephone conversations--or he just had a recorder on him--they have to be over the phone to be illegal--if your wearing a wire with the battery pack under your balls-- that's ok
Posted by SON OF TOLUI 2005-02-20 6:04:54 AM||   2005-02-20 6:04:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 ..After reading the whole thing, this is what I believe the MSM is going to run with:

*He used drugs!!He's no better than Clinton!!
*He's a religious maniac!!
*My God, he wanted to make Ashkkkroft a Supreme Court justice!!

There are probably some others in there, but I think that is what will be slammed down our throats over the next few days. On the other hand, I sure as hell hope that ol' Mr. Wead considered the fact that the Blogosphere will be checking him out with a carrot peeler over the next few days.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2005-02-20 9:17:27 AM||   2005-02-20 9:17:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 " the Blogosphere will be checking him out with a carrot peeler over the next few days..."

LOL, Mike. There'll be a "Weadwatch" site up by the end of today.
Posted by Matt 2005-02-20 10:55:04 AM||   2005-02-20 10:55:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Wead was a pastor and a friend. Neither of which should be taping conversations without the other's knowledge. He's worse than scum
Posted by Frank G  2005-02-20 11:02:25 AM||   2005-02-20 11:02:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Some blogs are picking this up but the story is not spreading as fast as I thought it would. Wait until Monday radio gets their hands on it though. Between Limbaugh on the radio and O'Reilly on TV this jagoff will be exposed everywhere.

What the HELL is going on here anyway? These were old tapes from 98, right? And Doug Dickwead claims that they weren't supposed to get out? Well, how the fuck DID they get out after all this time, assmunch??! Answer: YOU PLAYED THEM FOR A FUCKING REPORTER.

I'm going to look through this deceitful money-grabbing attempt to sell more books and smear my "friend" article one more time to see if I can find the part where dickWead APOLOGIZES for making the tapes public. I doubt I'll find it.

This dickWead jerk just sold his last book.
Posted by Chris W.  2005-02-20 2:27:55 PM||   2005-02-20 2:27:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 ..Just heard part of the tapes on CBS, whose reporter's face was showing barely concealed his glee, and they were harping on the "Bush confessed to using marijuana" meme.
The interesting part was that the voice of President Bush didn't sound very much like him...

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2005-02-20 6:41:09 PM||   2005-02-20 6:41:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 I got the same feeling, Mike, when I heard a snippet on Fox.

Just imagine how the press would be reacting if these were tapes of Clinton, being sold downriver by some trusted friend. Nothing could surprise me about Clinton so I wouldn't care less, but they'd be going crazy excoriating the leaker.
Posted by .com 2005-02-20 6:46:07 PM||   2005-02-20 6:46:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Nothing could surprise me about Clinton

Like the reason he never released his medical records (deviated septum, from heavily hitting the coke straw while he was AK governor)?
Posted by Raj 2005-02-20 6:50:01 PM||   2005-02-20 6:50:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 No, why would snorting coke be any worse than perjury before Congress?

I did it all, at least once - and I mean all of it. We make choices, every single day. Some of my early days, 13-16, I made some extremely stupid choices - I had a lot of help along those lines given who I knew and hung out with. I lucked out when our little family made a major move from Texas to the Mountain states region - the opportunities and enticement changed dramatically. Despite the conventional wisdom which says you can't, I learned from those days and didn't seek out the truly unforgiving stuff, like smack. At age 20, when my ex-wife announced she was pregnant, I had an epiphany. I turned 180 deg and have refused everything except nicotine and caffeine since. I did have 2 beers last Nov 3rd. I'd still have the other 4 in the fridge except that I've pawned 3 of them off on visitors. So there's one lonely Beck's Dark in there - the only German product I've bought in the last 2.5 yrs.

Snorting a little coke doesn't impress me much. Doing it after your High School years tells me he never grew up or took responsibility for his actions, basically, he's learned nothing important in life, despite his political successes. Usually people in his situation only get squared away when John Law slaps on the cuffs. Since he's immune from all that (not literally, but effectively), it's likely he destined to keep on doing stupid things. Such is the way of the world, I guess. And no, I'm not an anti-everything zealot - I learned that doesn't serve any purpose.
Posted by .com 2005-02-20 7:11:59 PM||   2005-02-20 7:11:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Fwiw and perhaps I misheard, but I saw an “exclusive” interview this morning with Wead on the weekend edition of Good Morning America. The way I understood him was that he originally had written the portion of his book having to do with W crediting anonymous sources. Then his publisher came back to him and said that the NY Times wouldn’t review his book (which I assume is a big deal) unless he named his sources. He agreed to play portions of his tapes to prove his points, but once the reporters discovered the tapes they coerced him to reveal the rest.

This doesn’t absolve him for his betrayal of course (on that score I agree with Frank G), but if true then one could only wish for an alternative universe where the NYT went after Eason Jordan or John Kerry with such zeal. Funny how something so clearly “off-the-record” that it’s borderline illegal to release here is fair game, but “off-the record” in Davos is sacrosanct.

For someone willing to pay Real Networks (who I despise), the interview is here:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/story?id=516740&page=1
Posted by Thraing Glurong8447 2005-02-20 7:25:54 PM||   2005-02-20 7:25:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 His personal honor for a book plug.

30 pieces of silver?
Posted by .com 2005-02-20 7:31:29 PM||   2005-02-20 7:31:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Wasn't there an incident a while back where some Democratic 'vacationers' (who just happen to have come from some DNC function and just happen to... ) recorded a cell-phone conversation of Newt? I happen to remember because Congressman McDermitt (D-Wa) handed the tape off to the press?

What ever happened to those operatives 'vacationers'?
Posted by CrazyFool 2005-02-20 8:08:38 PM||   2005-02-20 8:08:38 PM|| Front Page Top

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