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2011-03-05 -Lurid Crime Tales-

Obama's Feds Abandon Live Man in Nevada Mine Shaft

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Posted by Spinetch Grinetch9564 2011-03-05 12:25|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 Nice to see that the EU maintains the 4/5 posters are bugwits ratio, same as US.

I'm not going to lay blame or say a damn thing about a decision on the spot, a situation I know nothing about, or the qualities of the rescuers. This quick article does not say how wide the shaft is, or the extent of the injuries of the victim.

Others apparently do not have that problem, Dueling U's:

EU - poster wants to build a shark cage like device and lower it, I guess so the rescuer could be buried alive in collapse? Indictments of US business practice and how much worse we are than chilians etc.

US - they should at least euthanize him, somehow not surprised when location was San Francisco, but is a fellow who knows he can do it with his bike helmut and steel-tipped boots. I assume a motorcycle helmut but am unsure.

Posted by swksvolFF 2011-03-05 15:54|| 2011-03-05 15:54|| Front Page Top

#2 I was a rescuer for many years. Never heard of a death zone. I will say something about the quality of rescuers. They are unintelligent cowards. But try to get past the feds now if you have the ability to pull of the rescue. They won't let you. Gauranteed. This is murder.

Posted by Bugs Glush1511 2011-03-05 16:08|| 2011-03-05 16:08|| Front Page Top

#3 dude died

Posted by Frank G 2011-03-05 17:08|| 2011-03-05 17:08|| Front Page Top

#4 Speaking on behalf of those terrified of abandoned mines, let me assure everyone that they are death traps. Poison and explosive gases, rotten support members, rabid animals, unexpected vertical shafts, rock falls, unpredictable water, even abandoned explosives. The ceilings can kill, the floors can kill, the walls can kill.

The State of AZ has had enough of them, so is planning to dump old tires down them. Even that is extremely dangerous, because vertical shafts are often invisible, covered with rotten timbers and enough dust to look like solid ground. Until you put weight on them.

That's if the horizontal shafts don't collapse, which also happens.

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-03-05 17:18|| 2011-03-05 17:18|| Front Page Top

#5 When we were kids, my buddies and I used to explore abandoned shafts and adits with our handy dandy carbide lamps. One time we had the sh*t scared out of us by some rotten timbers that fell and some rock came down. We got out. Told my dad, and he gave us a lecture about abandoned mines and tunnels, what could happen, including bad gas and lack of oxygen. We gave up on that hobby, but not on our carbide lamps.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2011-03-05 21:15|| 2011-03-05 21:15|| Front Page Top

#6 AP - my NV relations have all said don't even walk close to them, you never know how stable the surrounding ground is. Exhibit one - this poor guy

Posted by Frank G 2011-03-05 22:15|| 2011-03-05 22:15|| Front Page Top

#7 This has to be the most disgusting story of the day. Maybe Obama should call our friends in South America and learn something about mine rescues, tenacity, never quitting, and courage.

Posted by whatadeal 2011-03-05 22:28|| 2011-03-05 22:28|| Front Page Top

#8 whatadeal - if you lose 3 or 4 rescuers trying to save a dying victim, is that competence? I'm thinking locals, not Obama, were the first on the scene and if the shaft was unstable, made the right decision. Sad to say...

Posted by Frank G 2011-03-05 22:31|| 2011-03-05 22:31|| Front Page Top

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