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2024-04-09 Home Front: Politix

What military support does the US give Israel?

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Posted by trailing wife 2024-04-09 03:13|| || Front Page|| [308 views ] Top

#1 Supposedly when we give money to foreign countries that gives us leverage over them. But we don't have any leverage over Israel. Israel is ripping us off. Even the slime molds in Europe do what we tell them. They're nice little lapdogs. But all we get from Israel are dogbites. It's harming our international reputation as leader of the rules-based international order. We're supposed to rein in rogue states and bring them to heel when they do things like this. But we aren't, which is making us look ridiculous in the eyes of the world. BRICS is gaining strength and we're losing it.

Posted by Uleremp and Company7042 2024-04-09 04:11|| 2024-04-09 04:11|| Front Page Top

#2 When we call the tune, Taiwan dances. That's how this works. Take our money, do as we say. We're America, bitch.

Posted by Uleremp and Company7042 2024-04-09 04:13|| 2024-04-09 04:13|| Front Page Top

#3 Your tax dollars Uleremp?

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-04-09 05:08|| 2024-04-09 05:08|| Front Page Top

#4 And we provide extensive intelligence support

Posted by Gloluns Turkeyneck4904 2024-04-09 06:15|| 2024-04-09 06:15|| Front Page Top

#5 When Uncle Sam puts on the Macarena, every nation that's our bitch better do that dumb dance. Europe does, Taiwan does, those flyspeck countries in the Pacific do, but Israel gets angry and demands the right to turn off the music, and sulks that it won't dance and we can't force it to. So why are we giving them money?

Posted by Uleremp and Company7042 2024-04-09 06:18|| 2024-04-09 06:18|| Front Page Top

#6 Egypt received 1.4B last year from the US. Mostly in military aid. I think Iran got $6B.

Posted by Xyz 2024-04-09 08:11|| 2024-04-09 08:11|| Front Page Top

#7 Yes. US aid money buys so much stability.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-09 08:13|| 2024-04-09 08:13|| Front Page Top

#8 But we don't have any leverage over Israel.

When backed into a corner with their survival threatened, nation-states can be as vicious as rabid wolverines. Existential concerns override leverage or any other Great Game considerations. Both Russia and Israel are current examples.

When analyzing a threat, will and capability matter. The other side may hate you and want you exterminated, but if they lack the capability to do anything about it, they are not an existential threat. If Hamas was capable of nothing more than randomly blowing up pizza parlors and the occasional checkpoint stabbing, it would be business as usual for everyone. Hamas had the will, but not the capability to be more than a deadly nuisance. On October 7, they demonstrated a new capability that elevated them into the existential threat category.

Israel is removing that threat. Harsh words and sanctions will not deter them because survival is at stake. Overly dramatic? Israel is a small country. If a terrorist attack in the US killed 60,000 people, would harsh words, platitudes and hand-waving be a sufficient response?

Posted by SteveS 2024-04-09 09:20|| 2024-04-09 09:20|| Front Page Top

#9 Since leaving Afghanistan with our tail between our legs, our military and civilian "leadership" is baffled by any other response.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-09 10:32|| 2024-04-09 10:32|| Front Page Top

#10 Hillary Clinton is Wellesley College’s “most beloved war criminal,” according to pamphlets handed out by student activists.

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-04-09 10:42|| 2024-04-09 10:42|| Front Page Top

#11 ^ It's always nice to envision the left eating itself for not being rabidly left enough, but when push comes to shove, no other group is so good or automatic at going into lockstep.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-09 10:50|| 2024-04-09 10:50|| Front Page Top

#12 What survival threatened? Israel has a modern military and jet fighters. Hamas isn't any threat to Israel's survival. they're a bunch of dudes with AKs, their best weapon is homemade from lengths of water pipe. Israel uses AI to know when leaders are in their homes and kills them there to minimize collateral damage. This is a level of sophistication never before achieved in the field of warfare. You can't come up with a scenario where Hamas literally threatens Israel's existence without using alien space bats.

Posted by Uleremp and Company7042 2024-04-09 12:44|| 2024-04-09 12:44|| Front Page Top

#13 . Even the slime molds in Europe do what we tell them.

*gasp* Oh my goodness…. that’s too, too funny for words!

Posted by trailing wife 2024-04-09 13:06|| 2024-04-09 13:06|| Front Page Top

#14 ^ UC jumps the shark.

Posted by Besoeker 2024-04-09 13:44|| 2024-04-09 13:44|| Front Page Top

#15 #12 Google "pogrom" moron.

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-04-09 13:48|| 2024-04-09 13:48|| Front Page Top

#16 "Hamas isn't any threat to Israel's survival. they're a bunch of dudes with AKs, their best weapon is homemade from lengths of water pipe."

Uleremp and Company7042

Try and catch up on your reading idiot!

https://jcpa.org/article/hamas-advanced-weaponry-rockets-artillery-drones-cyber/

Posted by NoMoreBS 2024-04-09 14:10|| 2024-04-09 14:10|| Front Page Top

#17 Uleremp and Company7042 is our troll of many nyms

Posted by Frank G 2024-04-09 14:16|| 2024-04-09 14:16|| Front Page Top

#18 Yeah, Bidet has threatened American citizens with F-16 strikes for being pro 2A. Chink plant Swallwell says they'll nuke us.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-09 14:17|| 2024-04-09 14:17|| Front Page Top

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