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2008-04-09 Fifth Column

Illinois Dem party subverts the US Constitution and Electoral College

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Posted by 3dc 2008-04-09 01:11|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 Screw the Ill state. They're having a wet dream; eventually they'll wake up and realize the rest of the country thinks they're crazy. I'm not surprised at their moonbattery, however; both BO and Her Thighness come from there. What a horrible thing to have to admit to, if you're from Illville!

Posted by Pancho Elmeck8414 2008-04-09 04:37|| 2008-04-09 04:37|| Front Page Top

#2 Hello Rome.

Posted by newc">newc 2008-04-09 06:21|| 2008-04-09 06:21|| Front Page Top

#3 So, if Barack Obama carries his home state, but John McCain wins the national popular vote, the IL electors will go for McCain. You sure that's what you want?

Posted by Mike 2008-04-09 06:27|| 2008-04-09 06:27|| Front Page Top

#4 the IL electors will go for McCain.

Nah, it is like the Florida-Michigan delegate debacle - they just make the rules up as it suits them. Whatever it takes to win.

Posted by Woodrow Slusorong7967 2008-04-09 06:36|| 2008-04-09 06:36|| Front Page Top

#5 I don't necessarily think it is a smart move, but it is not unconstitutional. The States have the individual right to choose their electors any way they see fit. If Illinois wants to ask the Pope (or even bin Laden) who he wants for President, and assign its electors that way, I think they can.

Posted by Menhadden Snogum6713 2008-04-09 08:11|| 2008-04-09 08:11|| Front Page Top

#6 This was signed by Gov Blago. The agreement kicks in once it's been approved by enough states to generate 270 votes, or a majority in the Electoral College.
Blagojevich's support for the idea isn't a surprise. As a congressman in 2000, he co-sponsored a proposed constitutional amendment to abolish the Electoral College.

The guy's a complete ass-hat. Another bill moving through the Ill. legislature would allow recall of elected officials. Much of it's support is due to this jerk.

Posted by Spot">Spot 2008-04-09 08:11|| 2008-04-09 08:11|| Front Page Top

#7 So, they're voting themselves out of existence. Why have states? The Donks in particular want everything dictated from Washington anyways, so why not do away with 50 redundant intermediary administrative units? The reason you want an Electoral College is to maintain the integrity of the State against a totally defacto centralized government. When you remove the standing of the state and treat it as nothing more than a popular vote district, it loses it's rational justification to be an entity that the original framers of the Constitution intended as in the United STATES of America.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-04-09 08:40|| 2008-04-09 08:40|| Front Page Top

#8 Menhadden: No, I don't think they could give their electoral votes to the Vatican. It would run counter to Article 4, section 4 - guarantee of a republican form of government. Autocratic selection of electors by an external theocratic authority definitely violates my conception of "republican form of government", and I'd like to think that this is a common-sense interpretation of Article 4, section 4. You couldn't give the choice of electors to the British Royal Family, either.

Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H. 2008-04-09 10:09|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2008-04-09 10:09|| Front Page Top

#9 More interesting is that they are going down this road in the midst of a primary campaign in which this sort of proportional representation nonsense is tearing their beloved party of slaveholder Jefferson and indian exterminator Jackson to pieces because it prevents a decisive conclusion. They are unable to learn from history when it is only 5 minutes old! Instead they prefer indecisive debate. Must be dominated by lawyers who value process over result.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-04-09 10:44|| 2008-04-09 10:44|| Front Page Top

#10 Of course Denms want this. They want to abolish the Republic, and substitute mob rule (Aka pure democracy), since they (via the MSM) can keep the mob ignorant, mal-informed, and agitated, instead of knowledgeable, well informed and rational.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-04-09 13:05|| 2008-04-09 13:05|| Front Page Top

#11 Maryland did the same thing last year. the majick number is 22 or 23 states, IIRC.

Posted by Seafarious 2008-04-09 13:23|| 2008-04-09 13:23|| Front Page Top

#12 Hell that's not even a majority, last I looked we had 50 states, 25 would be half not 23.

Posted by Redneck Jim">Redneck Jim 2008-04-09 14:14|| 2008-04-09 14:14|| Front Page Top

#13 Ah, what did them Founding Father's know? Just a buncha rich old hetero gun owning white guys. Probably not a member of the GLBT community among them, not even in the closet. Might as well have a buncha unenlightened friggin cavemen tell us what to do...

Posted by tu3031 2008-04-09 14:23|| 2008-04-09 14:23|| Front Page Top

#14 IIRC, the electoral college process is in the Constitution. Changing it would require amending the Constitution. That takes a 2/3 vote, not a majority. I think someone's about to get their a$$ handed to them in a top hat.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2008-04-09 21:41|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2008-04-09 21:41|| Front Page Top

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