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2010-04-11 Home Front: Politix
Support for Israel runs on party lines
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Posted by ryuge 2010-04-11 09:18|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 Now poll the percentage of American Jews who vote and/or support the demokratic party vs. the Republican party. Cognitive dissonance personified. I've read a number of articles by Podhoretz and Goldberg about this but still find it stunningly illogical....
It will be interesting to see of Oblahblah has finally done enough to break the mindlessness of American Jews on this...if he has, money and influence disproportionate to raw numbers may flow to the right.
Posted by NoMoreBS 2010-04-11 11:12||   2010-04-11 11:12|| Front Page Top

#2 Never mind Israel---Israel will survive and prosper with or without USA. Don't these people get whom Obama is going to scapegoat when he can't deliver on his promises?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2010-04-11 12:19||   2010-04-11 12:19|| Front Page Top

#3 Israel will survive and prosper with or without USA.

Heh.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2010-04-11 12:22||   2010-04-11 12:22|| Front Page Top

#4 NoMoreBS - The problem is even more nuanced, and worse, than may appear.

I'll discount the whole "dual loyalty" canard - since using it can cut both ways. Still, if you throw that out, a simple random sample of American jews would give the same result - crazy democratic bias. It's hilariously the opposite of the nonsensical "What's wrong with Kansas" book by that Franks guy.

I still await the non-ethnic polling - i.e. not so much of "jewish-americans", but of religiously observant americans. I suspect that to the extent they are jewish, they are also republicans. I suspect the leftism is more secular than religious. Almost the opposite of blacks, which may be the most religious component (if not the only) still dominant amongst democrats.
Posted by Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2010-04-11 12:26||   2010-04-11 12:26|| Front Page Top

#5 Almost the opposite of blacks, which may be the most religious component (if not the only) still dominant amongst democrats.

Almost, but you're forgetting the liberal strains of the US Episkopal choich and attendant Quakerism. Small but damn strong, trust me on this.
Posted by Shipman 2010-04-11 12:42||   2010-04-11 12:42|| Front Page Top

#6 which may be the most religious component (if not the only) still dominant amongst democrats.

The donk party is very religious. But it is the Church of Government at which they worship.

Think I'm kidding? Who used to provide education? Churches. Now? Government. Who used to care for orphans? Church orphanages. Now? Government. Who used to care for the indigent elderly? Church homes. Now? Social Security. Who used to provide eternal life? Churches. Now? Obamacare.

They won't be happy till we all worship at the same church sorry, mosque.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2010-04-11 12:49||   2010-04-11 12:49|| Front Page Top

#7 The Lubavicher Jewish town near us has formed quite a convenient political alliance with the Dems which allows them to flaunt building codes etc. A fair number of Conservative Jews I know are very liberal politically as well.

NS touches on why - they dislike, hate and/or fear Evangelicals and to some degree Catholics and want their influence on society to be removed.
Posted by lotp 2010-04-11 13:08||   2010-04-11 13:08|| Front Page Top

#8 ...they dislike, hate and/or fear Evangelicals and to some degree Catholics and want their influence on society to be removed.

...and when the Obamajugend decide it's time to start breaking some crystal, guess what? It'll probably still be Evangelicals putting their asses on the line to save Jewish refugees.
Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2010-04-11 13:22||   2010-04-11 13:22|| Front Page Top

#9 Who used to provide education? Churches. Now? Government.

Nimble Spemble, I've recently been reading a history of Cincinnati. I can't speak to your other points, but education in this country started out as small, private enterprises at all levels from primary to tertiary, some of the primary and secondary schools subsequently moving to community sponsorship as the middle of the 19th century approached. The churches (specifically the Catholic church) did not get involved in the education biz. until later, when there were enough Catholic children of school age to be troubled by the anti-Catholic slant of public education.
Posted by trailing wife 2010-04-11 16:17||   2010-04-11 16:17|| Front Page Top

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