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2013-04-28 Home Front: WoT
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Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 It also raises questions why U.S. authorities didn't flag his return to the United States and investigate him further after a seven-month trip he took to Russia last year.

No need to "investigate" or tip him off to their surveillance, they knew precisely what he was up to.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-28 01:43||   2013-04-28 01:43|| Front Page Top

#2 Who's lost their job over this immense fuckup?? (I don't normally use language like that but it's needed for some cases).
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-04-28 12:42||   2013-04-28 12:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Nobody gets fired PB. As in Benghazi, Boston, and Fort Hood, innocent people just get dead.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-28 12:45||   2013-04-28 12:45|| Front Page Top

#4 Question. IIUC, TIDE is a list of ~540,000 "suspicious" people. Potential splodeydopes. I assume there is no realistic way to monitor them all. I also assume that a significant number of them really should be under surveillance 24/7, but determining which ones, exactly, is difficult. And of those, I would think that predicting the exact time, location, and means that Dude X will select to unleash carnage is nearly impossible.

If those assumptions are correct, why do we bother wasting finite, limited resources on an endeavor that has approximately the same chance of success as winning the lottery? Wouldn't it make more sense to just deport every non-US citizen in TIDE (95% of them, IIUC), or at least, if they leave the US, permanently bar their re-entry? And perhaps even refuse entry to citizens of jihad-friendly countries altogether?

What obligates 300 million Americans to risk their lives for the sake of 0.5 million individuals with a high propensity for mass murder? If it is ok for individuals to conduct our own "behavioral profiling" when we go on a date, what makes it wrong for us to do the same as a nation?

I know, I know, that's just crazy talk. Still. Why is this not the "national conversation" we're having? What is so taboo? So awful? Are we really acquiescing to the occasional mass slaughter so as not to be rude?
Posted by RandomJD 2013-04-28 13:48||   2013-04-28 13:48|| Front Page Top

#5 "Are we really acquiescing to the occasional mass slaughter so as not to be rude?"

It does seem that way, JD, particularly for the Administration and the MSM (but I repeat myself).

Of course, they all have armed security protection, while they're trying to take our weapons from us so we the expendables have no protection at all.
Posted by Barbara 2013-04-28 14:57||   2013-04-28 14:57|| Front Page Top

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