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2015-05-01 -Lurid Crime Tales-
Freddie Gray suffered fatal 'catastrophic injury when he fell head first in back of police van and broke neck as head hit bolt'
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Posted by Fred 2015-05-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ]  Top

#1 Once again, the WH, the DOJ, and the MSM probably got it wrong again.

They seem so committed to starting either a race war or a civil war in the US.

The conspiracy theorists who have given various explanations for the premature race baiting may yet be correct in their assessments.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2015-05-01 00:17||   2015-05-01 00:17|| Front Page Top

#2 Wehell, whether its this, or the "American Dream" is now the OWG-NWO "North American Dream" wid Mexico + Canada + Greenland in the mix, THE MORE ANRCHIES-N-CHAOS THE BETTER FOR US-GLOBAL OWG + MARXIST-SOCIALIST ORDER, ETC.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2015-05-01 00:38||   2015-05-01 00:38|| Front Page Top

#3 Shoulda been belted in.
Posted by gorb 2015-05-01 03:20||   2015-05-01 03:20|| Front Page Top

#4 Baltimore PD has a history of "rough ride" where they get a suspect they dont like, cuff arms and legs, but dont belt him in, and then corner hard, brake hard, and basically throw him against the sides, back and front of the police vehicle. There is a case where a guy was made a quadraplegic through police action of this sort, and a lot of others who were injured.

With no ability to maintain balance or use hands to stabilize one's self, you can be slammed against the doors , seats, sides, and any protrusions in the vehicle with impacts that are equal to a traffic collision. Baltimore PD used this as a method of applying a beating to "troublesome" arrestees, while being able to claim they never hit the suspect.

Folks, this is a rotten PD, and they killed the guy. They dont deserve the riots, but they do deserve punishment, starting at the top, and running all the way down to the commanders who allows this and the line officers who commit this crime. All should be stripped of their uniforms, sued civilly for everything they have, lose their homes and possessions, and be thrown into jail themselves.
Posted by OldSpook 2015-05-01 09:01||   2015-05-01 09:01|| Front Page Top

#5 O. S. What about the other guy in the van? He had no injuries.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2015-05-01 09:53||   2015-05-01 09:53|| Front Page Top

#6 I would not call it "catastrophic" rather a fatal injury by misadventure.

catastrophic
[ ˌkatəˈsträfik ]
ADJECTIVE
1.involving or causing sudden great damage or suffering:
"a catastrophic earthquake"
2.extremely unfortunate or unsuccessful:
"catastrophic mismanagement of the economy"
synonyms: disastrous · calamitous · cataclysmic · apocalyptic · ruinous
Posted by Daffy Grumble3124 2015-05-01 09:55||   2015-05-01 09:55|| Front Page Top

#7 Some of the TV forensics experts are saying they don't think Gray could have severed his spinal cord by hitting his head in the van. I don't believe this to be true. I've seen a considerable number of deaths in the course of work that you wouldn't think could happen.
Posted by JohnQC 2015-05-01 10:59||   2015-05-01 10:59|| Front Page Top

#8 An interesting phenomenon coming out of this. It seems everyone is blaming the system. In the past we placed individual responsibility above system failure, but if you listen to all the commentators, it's now blame the system in Baltimore, not don't break the law and disobey cops.

This department is a product of the community it serves and the justice system that fails to punish accordingly. Bad cops are bad cops and need to go. But, as I feel was the case in Ferguson, this is a "criminal community" where an overwhelming majority are themselves and/or have one or more relatives involved with crime. Constant policing is perceived as harassment because there are so many people involved in some level of criminal activity. Everyone is getting harassed becomes the perception. This causes friction, especially in an atagonized propogandized black community where forces are at work against the "system" and the oppression by "white power" police represent. Cops then adjust policing to deal with the chaotic situation.

Don't get me wrong, bad cops gotta go, but we have to hire the professionals to do the job and let them do it with community support. Once the community goes against the police force, nothing good will evolve from it. Why do we think they are staging all these demos? Do we really believe so many major cities have bad PD's in their worst neighborhoods or do we believe a permissive welfare state has allowed a majority of whole communities to become directly or tangentially involved in crime and all its nefarious consequences? What kind of policing does that community need? What is the effect of plea bargains, early releases, etc on that PD?
Posted by jefe101 2015-05-01 12:07||   2015-05-01 12:07|| Front Page Top

#9 It's next to impossible to get rid of bad cops. Even if you post a video of their behavior on YouTube. There's a video of a pair of transit cops somewhere who had a drunk gal in custody. She was obnoxious, so they purposefully flipped her upside down so she landed on her face, breaking several bones and teeth. The cops claimed in their report that they "guided her to the ground", even though the video showed otherwise. The cops' superiors said everything was fine. The $hit is going to hit the fan on this one.
Posted by gorb 2015-05-01 13:18||   2015-05-01 13:18|| Front Page Top

#10 I wonder how much of that is due to the union.

I've always felt that if a union has a say in who can be fired then they should be held responsible for their member's behavior.

For example if a teachers union's contact has restrictions on who can be fired, and a teacher molests one of their students, the union can be sued in civil court for damages.
Posted by CrazyFool 2015-05-01 14:05||   2015-05-01 14:05|| Front Page Top

#11 I do not want to get into race and all, but here is what I have found out:

  • The Mayor is black.

  • 9 of the city council people are black.

  • The police commissioner is black

  • The city is basically run by democrats


So, the dems run the show, and if you identify with a certain ethnic or racial group, then your group is well represented in the government of your city.

Other observations: If you are going to be a cop in these areas of Baltimore, then you are dealing with some harda$$ people so you will be a harda$$ yourself.

It is your police force, it is your govt, so it is your city's problem, not O's, not Al Sharpton's. Look in the mirror---it is your problem. Not everyone else's problem.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2015-05-01 19:37||   2015-05-01 19:37|| Front Page Top

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