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2006-05-05 India-Pakistan
Showdown in Pakistan imminent?
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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-05-05 02:38|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Dust the whole of Waziristan with ...
Posted by 3dc 2006-05-05 02:51||   2006-05-05 02:51|| Front Page Top

#2 Great read, Dan - Thank-you. Time to get across that border and clean up N & S Waziristan NOW - if the taliban are really resurgent and inflict any serious casualties on NATO/US troops then it could well be crunch time for Perv - time to face up to the old-lags in the ISI who are seemingly pulling the strings in Pakland.

If they plan on taking power in Afghanistan(!) then they better have an answer to the Crusader-Zionist Death Ray™ we used on them so effectively in 2001!
Posted by Howard UK 2006-05-05 04:03||   2006-05-05 04:03|| Front Page Top

#3 Thats all good. "Fry them up Dano"

To choose between India or Pakistan what should we do. I'll go with India.
Posted by SPoD 2006-05-05 04:16|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]  2006-05-05 04:16|| Front Page Top

#4 It doesn't surprise me this report is from Asia Times, which has a track record of hyping up the capabilities of the Jihadis and acting as their mouthpiece. In October 2001 they were saying that the US was in an "unwinnable" war in Afghanistan. One their hacks, called Pepe Escobar, is a lying, American-hating, marxist dog.
Posted by Apostate 2006-05-05 04:48||   2006-05-05 04:48|| Front Page Top

#5 Syed Saleem Shahzad in particular, while having some interesting things to say, has been essentially repeating the same article about the Taliban resurgence for 3 years now.
Posted by Paul Moloney 2006-05-05 05:51||   2006-05-05 05:51|| Front Page Top

#6 Dan,
Here is the Pakistani stupidity. There are more Muslims in India than in Pakistan. Muslims in India are far better socially and economically than Muslims in Pakistan. Even the president of India is a Muslim and he is the second Muslim president of India. Kashmir used to be a touristÂ’s heaven adding a huge sum of money to benefit the majority Muslim population of Kashmir. Pakistani inspired / supported Islamic terrorism has destroyed the tourist business in Kashmir and by doing so Pakistan is actually causing poverty to the Muslims in Kashmir.
Posted by Annon 2006-05-05 06:05||   2006-05-05 06:05|| Front Page Top

#7 Here is the Pakistani stupidity.
...Pakistan is actually causing poverty to the Muslims in Kashmir.


You make the assumption that Pakistan cares about the welfare of Indian muslims.
It does not.

Prosperous Indian muslims are not in the interest of Pakistan. That is why you see the envy of Bangalore and the jihadi attacks starting there. The desire to wreck the Indian economy is strong.

If Indian muslims prosper, then what was Pakistan created for? This is what the Pak people will ask their rulers and there is no easy answer.



Posted by john 2006-05-05 06:34||   2006-05-05 06:34|| Front Page Top

#8 Even the president of India is a Muslim

And the paks hate him.

Not only is he a muslim, he is a rocket scientist who built India's first space launch vehicles, its first ballistic missiles and who supervised the second Indian nuclear test series.

Paks see him and compare him to the metallurgist AQ Khan, "the father of the islamic bomb".
While AQ Khan lives under house arrest, in disgrace, APJ Abdul Kalam lives in the Raj era palace built for the Viceroy.
Posted by john 2006-05-05 06:40||   2006-05-05 06:40|| Front Page Top

#9 Across the jihadi world, there is a strong conviction that by the end of this year Taliban leader Mullah Omar will be back in power in Afghanistan, from where he was driven by US-led forces in 2001.

So the name change from Bizzaro World to Jihadi World is official?
Posted by tu3031 2006-05-05 08:37||   2006-05-05 08:37|| Front Page Top

#10 When I read articles like this now, I have in mind Shelby Steele's words about our being "delicate with the enemy", and our "minimalism and restraint in war". Why haven't we totally exterminated the Taliban by now? And why haven't we crushed Waziristan by now? When are we going to get serious? If Zawahiri was feeling the full force of US power, he wouldn't have time for writing his fantasy fiction,in which he stupidly imagines that there is some real comparison between the jihadis and the Crusaders (may God protect them). The jihadi is to the Crusader like a tick on a lion, but the lion is holding back. Sorry, maybe I just don't understand the difficulties involved.
Posted by HV 2006-05-05 08:39||   2006-05-05 08:39|| Front Page Top

#11 Actually, it wouldn't be an entirely bad idea to allow the Jihadis to completely dominate a half province in Pakland and maybe even a cluster of villages in Afghanistan.

It would allow for more efficient information gathering on our part and would arguably also redistribute some jihadis from the interior of Afghanistan to the jihadi districts.
Posted by mhw 2006-05-05 09:14||   2006-05-05 09:14|| Front Page Top

#12 One their hacks, called Pepe Escobar, is a lying, American-hating, marxist dog.

He's a reporter, right? So "lying, American-hating, Marxist dog" is assumed.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-05-05 09:33|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-05-05 09:33|| Front Page Top

#13 RC, no, he's a journalist.

Reporter's job is to report, while journo "influences opinions".

I haven't seen a reporter in a long time, almost as if they became extinct.
Posted by twobyfour 2006-05-05 10:09||   2006-05-05 10:09|| Front Page Top

#14 My bad, 2x4. You're right -- it's the journalists who fit that description. I don't think there's been a prominent reporter in the business in my lifetime, though, so I hope you understand my confusion.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-05-05 10:21|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-05-05 10:21|| Front Page Top

#15 I beg to differ.
Michael Yon is a great reporter!
http://www.michaelyon-online.com

also:
Michael Totten is a reporter too.
Posted by 3dc 2006-05-05 11:18||   2006-05-05 11:18|| Front Page Top

#16 Showdown in Pakistan imminent?
Palestinian Police will fight terrorists.
Posted by gromgoru 2006-05-05 12:05||   2006-05-05 12:05|| Front Page Top

#17 I've said repeatedly that we've missed the boat on how to deal with the jihadis. They understand only one thing - power. We need to display just how POWERFUL we can be, without using nuke weapons. I think Quetta would be an ideal target area for us to totally destroy, not only breaking the rocks, but breaking the pieces into sand. Then we need to start up the Afghan/Pak border, indiscriminately bombing the he$$ out of everything until there's not two bricks standing. THEN let "mullah omar" claim how powerful he is.

Of course, that won't really work, because the taliban will simply move back into central Pakistan, and leave the Pashtuns to their fate. The only thing that will really work is to completely smash Pakistan, hang all the members of the ISI, shoot all the imams, destroy all the madrassahs, and give what's left over to Fiji. We're "too sensitive" to be that brutal, and it's going to end up costing us thousands of American lives because of it. We're fighting barbarians here, not civilized human beings. We need to fight them on their level, because they don't understand anything else.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2006-05-05 13:58|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2006-05-05 13:58|| Front Page Top

#18 3dc -- I said it's assumed. There are always exceptions.

So the name change from Bizzaro World to Jihadi World is official?

Nah. "Jihadi World" is the sequel to Bakshi's "Cool World".
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-05-05 14:31|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-05-05 14:31|| Front Page Top

#19 "I think Quetta would be an ideal target area for us to totally destroy"

yeah, it would be a really great idea to have perv gone, and have Hamid Gul as president of Pakistan, with Bin Laden, Zawahiri, Mullah Omar, and AQ Khan at his side.

People think only Americans are Jacksonian.

What would you have us do then, bomb Islamabad and Karachi to bricks?


Posted by Liberalhawk 2006-05-05 17:36||   2006-05-05 17:36|| Front Page Top

#20 Lib. Hawk.
When I visited Karachi as a kid in 1965 it was scarier then Aden (which became the peoples democratic republic of a few days after I left it)... It was even scarier than Jakarta in the middle of the revolution... Now days it is worse.

One could do worse than cross it off the list of inhabited places.
Posted by 3dc 2006-05-05 17:45||   2006-05-05 17:45|| Front Page Top

#21 Note that Paks replicate their failures unto the second and third generations...

These are high school results from the UK

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=268

Proportion of boys and girls aged 16 who achieved 5 of more GCSEs (grade A*-C), 1999



Posted by john 2006-05-05 18:13||   2006-05-05 18:13|| Front Page Top

#22 mmm... smart Indian girls with Bristish accents
Posted by sludge 2006-05-05 18:33||   2006-05-05 18:33|| Front Page Top

#23 Lol, sludge - my thoughts exactly. I lived there for awhile and quickly came to the conclusion they were infinitely more attractive than the Euro variety.
Posted by Thinert Flitle1614 2006-05-05 18:45||   2006-05-05 18:45|| Front Page Top

#24 Itn the Welsh that are scrwer up the table. Handicapped with too many consonants in they yoof.
Posted by 6 2006-05-05 19:44||   2006-05-05 19:44|| Front Page Top

#25 Utter and complete bullshit. "Across the jihdi world" right.

Across the fruited plain Omar will be on ice in 2006.
Posted by Captain America 2006-05-05 20:55||   2006-05-05 20:55|| Front Page Top

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