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2006-05-07 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

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Posted by ryuge 2006-05-07 07:58|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Call me a cynic by this strikes me as an ill-fated attempt. Turkey will backstab us, Russia will sabotage it, and Kazakhstan will change leaders and nationalize it.

This seems a bit to me as if someone back at the turn of the last century came up with some great idea to increase the numbers of whales to insure the supply of whale oil into the 20th Century.

Move on.

Posted by 2b 2006-05-07 10:04|| 2006-05-07 10:04|| Front Page Top

#2 2b

If we dont help the EU secure alternative supplies then all of EU will become highly vulnerable to Russian will. May not change their military alliance but in diplomatic scenarios they will go with Russia over US, knowing at the end of the day Russia if mad could cut or double their energy killing their economy and the US cant do anything to help short go to war a true "war for oil".

And as for the whale oil jab remember 2b fossil fuels are going to be with US for at least another generation 30+ years as the primary source. Even if we discovered the silver bullet today say hydrogen it will take at least 30 years to retool the entire infrastructure from the refinery, gas station, gas hauling trucks rail road cars, mechanics, the old dude at the corner who still things gas is better. Just track you gallon of gas back all the way down the chain understanding every item will have to be scrapped and replaced with a new item of different specs.

If we dont want a Imperialist Totalitarian Russia holding the Western EU balls and even more so on Eastern EU heart not even to mention places like the Baltic states and the Caucasus we need to use our clout and the EU money to help.

There is a rumor old Putty is going to take over their state super oil/gas company while the current head of that company shifts to the Russian presidency. Think back recently when a gas pipeline to Georgia a (US ally) conviently broke in the middle of the worst part of winter and gas going to Ukraine just happened to need a 300% increase right after they flipped over to (US ally) in the middle of the winter this is a taste of the future.

Russia has a history of embargos punishing the populations remember E Berlin.

Posted by C-Low 2006-05-07 10:58|| 2006-05-07 10:58|| Front Page Top

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