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2013-08-15 Africa North
Muslim Brotherhood And Morsi Supporters Torch Egyptian Churches
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Posted by trailing wife 2013-08-15 02:12|| || Front Page|| [6 views ]  Top
 File under: Muslim Brotherhood 

#1 No surprise. Why is Obama friends of the MB?
Posted by Paul D 2013-08-15 10:09||   2013-08-15 10:09|| Front Page Top

#2 Because President Obama and his administration were trying to encourage a counterbalance to the Saudis' influence (and the Wahabbis by extension.) Hence the support given to the MB, the favor that Qatar enjoyed inside the Beltway, the attention paid to Erdogan, etc.

Much of this, IMNSHO, can be attributed to the undue and pervasive influence the MB has in Washington. Through its front groups, including CAIR, various and sundry 'agents' within the USG, and by a liberal application of money and favors by both MB and Qatar, the MB has pretty much managed to portray itself as a 'reasonable' version of political Islam (though its objectives are no different than the Wahabbis and Salafists).

Call it "Islam with a suit, tie and Western university degree". That the team that's in power in DC had used the same tactics to get where they are now also probably struck a sympathetic chord.
Posted by Pappy 2013-08-15 10:38||   2013-08-15 10:38|| Front Page Top

#3 And if they burn a few Christian churches so much the better as far as Obama is concerned.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2013-08-15 11:47||   2013-08-15 11:47|| Front Page Top

#4 And right now the Egyptian army is on Obama's sh*t list, so he's not going to ask them to protect the Copts.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-08-15 12:23||   2013-08-15 12:23|| Front Page Top

#5 And if they burn a few Christian churches so much the better as far as Obama is concerned

I wouldn't go so far as to assign that response to the President. However, it is fair to say it's likely not a critical issue on the administration's foreign policy list.

And right now the Egyptian army is on Obama's sh*t list, so he's not going to ask them to protect the Copts

I'd say that the inverse to that is more a accurate assumption, and more important.
Posted by Pappy 2013-08-15 13:19||   2013-08-15 13:19|| Front Page Top

#6 So Pappy whether its Saudi, Qatar or MB we have no true friends as they all believe in political Islam. That Turk Pm is in the same boat.

The King of Jordan is our closest muslim ally!
Posted by Paul D 2013-08-15 14:13||   2013-08-15 14:13|| Front Page Top

#7 "the administration's foreign policy"

As near as I can tell, this Administration's foreign policy consists entirely of "What can we do to screw over the United States the most and do maximum damage to her, and also totally alienate her allies?"

And they're accomplishing their goal. >:-(
Posted by Barbara 2013-08-15 15:15||   2013-08-15 15:15|| Front Page Top

#8 When it comes to supporting despots or supporting people wanting liberty, EVERY TIME O has come down on the side of despots. EVERY TIME.

Wake up and smell the rot, people.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2013-08-15 15:43||   2013-08-15 15:43|| Front Page Top

#9 So Pappy whether its Saudi, Qatar or MB we have no true friends as they all believe in political Islam. That Turk Pm is in the same boat.

Well, yes. The issue is whether one recognises the risks when dealing with those groups and acting accordingly.

Frankly and bluntly, it'd be incredibly myopic and stupid to say "to hell with them and we're never going to deal with them". The US, during the Cold War, didn't do that with the USSR (tho the Brits were much more cozy...) or the Chinese. Though as Thing From Snowy Mountain once said - the ones who supported the USSR during the Cold War are now running things.

As for Jordan being an ally, I have my opinion. It likely wouldn't be well-received here in some sectors.
Posted by Pappy 2013-08-15 16:18||   2013-08-15 16:18|| Front Page Top

#10 Now, now, Pappy --- don't you know the current Abdullah is a Sandhurst graduate and an Oxonian?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-08-15 16:24||   2013-08-15 16:24|| Front Page Top

#11 And a Man of the Book?
Posted by Shipman 2013-08-15 17:21||   2013-08-15 17:21|| Front Page Top

#12 You think more attention would be paid by the lame stream media if it were instead of Coptic churches, they were Black churches?
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-08-15 18:28||   2013-08-15 18:28|| Front Page Top

#13 "You think more attention would be paid by the lame stream media if it were instead of Coptic churches, they were Black churches? "

I think they'd breathlessly report it if there were claims of Black churches being burned - and that they wouldn't bother to investigate to see whether it were true. >:-(
Posted by Barbara 2013-08-15 20:09||   2013-08-15 20:09|| Front Page Top

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