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2005-09-11 Home Front: Tech

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Posted by Steve White 2005-09-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Ethanol requires more fossils fuels to produce than the fuel it delivers and consequently significantly increases fossil fuel imports and increases dependence. Ethanol fuels are just a disguised farm subsidy. This is a much better article.

Posted by phil_b 2005-09-11 00:41|| 2005-09-11 00:41|| Front Page Top

#2 I am not big on Slate as a credible source. Still, with high fuel prices more innovative alternatives will come on line. This will result, in effect, in bringing overall fuel prices down long-term.

Posted by Captain America 2005-09-11 00:53|| 2005-09-11 00:53|| Front Page Top

#3 Recent technical advances have brought ethanol to a point where it is considerably past break even in areas near both corn production and distillaries.

In the rest of the country, it is still what Slate says it is.

Posted by mhw 2005-09-11 01:01|| 2005-09-11 01:01|| Front Page Top

#4 Since we can't ship this year's crops out of New Orleans, IT MAKES SENSE for this year.

Posted by 3dc 2005-09-11 01:02|| 2005-09-11 01:02|| Front Page Top

#5 #3: Recent technical advances have brought ethanol to a point where it is considerably past break even in areas near both corn production and distilleries.

Ummm, Corn is actually a poor crop for this alcohol conversion, Sugar Beets would yield more, I'm sure some farmers out there can come up with several alternate crops far better (Yield per acre) than Corn.

I remember reading an article some years back listing about 10 field crops far better at alcohol production than Corn.

Another thing glossed over, after fermenting the alcohol, the corn yields a far MORE nutritious residue than the original corn, it's sold as cattle feed and cattle find it tastier as well, it's not just used for fuel then trashed, dual usage reduces costs tremendously.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2005-09-11 02:02|| 2005-09-11 02:02|| Front Page Top

#6 Another thing glossed over, after fermenting the alcohol, the corn yields a far MORE nutritious residue than the original corn, it's sold as cattle feed and cattle find it tastier as well,..

and straight ethanol makes a great brain fuel.

Posted by Red Dog 2005-09-11 05:53|| 2005-09-11 05:53|| Front Page Top

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