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2005-11-23 Iraq
Insurgents Kill Senior Sunni Leader
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Posted by GK 2005-11-23 04:51|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Some Sunni-led insurgent groups have declared a boycott of the election and have threatened politicians who choose to participate in it.

Could these reporters be any more lazy? Get off your bar stools and tell us whether or not this particular Sunni politician "threatened" to participate in the elections or not. It is somewhat key to understanding this story, no?
Posted by 2b 2005-11-23 05:03||   2005-11-23 05:03|| Front Page Top

#2 Now the Iraqis who, earlier this week said that terrorism was bad but resistance was OK will have to discuss whether this was terrorism or resistance.

Posted by mhw 2005-11-23 07:53||   2005-11-23 07:53|| Front Page Top

#3 FoxNews reports: "the slain Khadim Sarhid al-Hemaiyem was the leader of the Sunni Batta tribe and the brother of a parliamentary candidate in the Dec. 15 election, the official, Maj. Falah al-Mohammedawi, said."
Posted by Bucephalus 2005-11-23 09:19||   2005-11-23 09:19|| Front Page Top

#4 Now the Iraqis who, earlier this week said that terrorism was bad but resistance was OK will have to discuss whether this was terrorism or resistance.

Shockingly, the press mis-reported that.

The final compromise formula said that while "resistance is a legal right for all peoples, however terrorism does not constitute legitimate resistance. As such, we condemn terrorism and the acts of violence and killing and kidnapping that target Iraqis and humane and civil institutions and the government and the national resources and religious places, and request they be opposed immediately."

In other words they've condemned everything that's been going on in Iraq, without distinguishing one thing as terrorism and another as resistance. While the statement leaves out any reference to foreign troops, it also leaves out any reference to occupation, which in itself neutralizes the angle of legitimate resistance. The addition of the government and state institutions in there by default refers back to Maliki's words that it is in fact the government that requested the foreign troops. Therefore, any attack on them is by default an attack on the government's authority.


For some reason, the press line on this mirrors that taken by the treasonous Juan Cole, liar extraordinaire.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-11-23 09:37|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-11-23 09:37|| Front Page Top

#5 The Batta tribe is one of Iraq's largest Sunni tribes from the area north of Baghdad.

According to this map, the Battas are not a "major" tribe - but likely affiliated with the Duri tribe, given the location. One thing that's clear, at least according to the map, is that the Sunnis tribes clearly appear to have strong alliances, yielding a more monolithic face of a few major tribes - while the Shi'a are a hodge-podge. Some of that is probably due to the difference in population, too - there are 3-4 times as many Shi'a.

The story goes on to say that he and 3 sons were killed in this attack and he lost his eldest a month ago. Big Daddy and 4 sons? This has a Mafia / territory feel to it. The Don Sheikh is dead and so are (many of) his heirs. Takeover ripe.
Posted by .com 2005-11-23 10:22||   2005-11-23 10:22|| Front Page Top

#6 RC

I'm pretty sure you are correct about the intent of the resistance/terrorism declaration.

However, what the Iraqi people believe it says is something else again. I'm waiting to hear what the Asso of Islamic Scholars (a group with a desire to pretend Sunni terrorism is actual resistance) says about this declaration.

Posted by mhw 2005-11-23 10:58||   2005-11-23 10:58|| Front Page Top

#7 However, what the Iraqi people believe it says is something else again.

Iraq the Model didn't seem to think much of it.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-11-23 12:02|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-11-23 12:02|| Front Page Top

#8 This whole thing is such b.s., the media makes it look like the Shites are doing this to start a civil war, when its obviously the terrorists who are trying to kill any Sunnis taking part in the political process. F*ck our media.
Posted by bgrebel9 2005-11-23 13:11||   2005-11-23 13:11|| Front Page Top

#9 RC

I agree Irq the m was smart about the declaration. However, he is just one fellow. If 80% of the people in Iraq were like him there would be an efficient and effective govt there. Unfortunately, he represents a much smaller portion of the population.
Posted by mhw 2005-11-23 16:54||   2005-11-23 16:54|| Front Page Top

#10 Batta is a common name - I work with a couple Battas and they're Paleos
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-11-23 18:07||   2005-11-23 18:07|| Front Page Top

#11 i knu a couple of girls once who Satta on my..
Posted by Dawg 2005-11-23 18:11||   2005-11-23 18:11|| Front Page Top

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