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2004-12-09 Caribbean-Latin America

Chavez takes control of TV, radio in Venezuela

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Posted by Seafarious 2004-12-09 2:51:59 PM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Y'mean he hadn't done that already? F*cking amateur dictator.

Posted by BH 2004-12-09 3:00:14 PM|| 2004-12-09 3:00:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Welcome to Radio Free Aruba!

Posted by john 2004-12-09 3:38:55 PM|| 2004-12-09 3:38:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 That'd be: Game. Set. Match.

It'll be at least a generation, prolly several, before Chvez is removed from power...

Unless the people of Venezuela decide to really get their hands dirty and fight this Castro wannabee - and I don't mean some street demonstrations for TV.

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Lessee, what are the actual "secret" regulations, compliments of the Church Committee, et al, regards CIA actions in foreign countries? I know - and can anticipate the reactions of some people who are, despite good intentions, sadly neutered by the incessant PCism... Sure, you're right - about everything, now go have a fucking latte, there's real work to be done that won't suit your delicate condition.

We talk openly about undermining and toppling the Mad Mullahs, why not an equally obvious foe like Chavez by cooperating with his opposition - actively? Communism, socialism, dictators of all stripes are as much enemies of Freedom as the Caliphatists.

If we don't, we have effectively signed off on millions of Venezuelans - thanks to inactions and actions alike, such as Jimmuh Carter's despicable behavior. That asshat made us complicit in this defeat of Freedom - and I find that shameful.
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Posted by .com 2004-12-09 3:46:59 PM|| 2004-12-09 3:46:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Where's Jimmah?

Prolly in Kiev, whoring for Yanukevych and decrying CIA "meddling"

Posted by lex 2004-12-09 3:50:22 PM|| 2004-12-09 3:50:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Nah...Jimmy's on the teevee flogging his new book.

Posted by Seafarious 2004-12-09 3:54:23 PM|| 2004-12-09 3:54:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I wonder if that new channel is carried in Venezuela.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-12-09 4:06:00 PM|| 2004-12-09 4:06:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 .com, I'm not really convinced the CIA is on our side. I wouldn't be surprised if our station chiefs in the middle east were actually working to thwart the Bush admin's pro-democracy maneuvers in Iran and elsewhere in the region.

Posted by lex 2004-12-09 4:06:40 PM|| 2004-12-09 4:06:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 War is Peace.
Hate is Love.
2+2=5

/Big Brother Hugo

Posted by Xbalanke 2004-12-09 4:53:57 PM|| 2004-12-09 4:53:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 com:

Actually, you raise a very interesting (although inadvertent) point in your rant; namely, why are we Rantsburgers, LGFers, and Freepers (etc.) waiting for our government to do anything? If there's one thing a conservative can rely upon it's the fact that "government" does things in the worst, most ass-backwards, bureaucratic manner possible whereas private organizations, businesses, and churches do things far more efficiently and quickly. Maybe what's called for here is a more, shall we say, direct application of some of the fund-raising skills which we as a group have picked up in the Culture War.

Heed the lesson of the NRA, NOW, and the Sierra Club: small amounts of money donated regularly by true believers create larger pools of money, which in turn allow you to produce useful or fun products and services that can be sold to the same group of people who are donating money in the first place. This leads to larger sums of money with which you can purchase tings such as politicians, lobbyists, and advertising space.

Or, in the case of poor Venezuela, what you might want to purchase are a dozen crates of AR-15s, three crates of .50 caliber anti-tank/anti-helicopter single shot rifles, a smattering of explosives, and two or three ex-military Army Rangers to train a few hundred pissed of Venezuelans on the basics of guerilla tactics for three months. Repeat where needed. Can it be done? Ask the Mayan Indians in Southern Mexico about it. They might not have a "no fly zone" down there but they do have a "no walk zone" for the Mexican Army courtesy of privately contracted former American military men.

Total Cost: $200,000.00 to $300,000.00 (maybe you can find a wealthy Venezuelan expatriate to help you)

Satisfaction: Priceless

Posted by Secret Master 2004-12-09 5:04:05 PM|| 2004-12-09 5:04:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 When the TV stations stop playing the Spanish soap operas because of thier sexual content there may be another revolution.

Posted by CanaveralDan 2004-12-09 5:22:30 PM|| 2004-12-09 5:22:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 If we don't, we have effectively signed off on millions of Venezuelans

My understanding is that Chavez actually has the support of a huge chunk of the population. In which case, perhaps the better solution is to divide Venezuela into two parts: one half for those who think dear leader Chavez has all the right answers, and the other half for all the rest.

Posted by Rafael 2004-12-09 7:39:44 PM|| 2004-12-09 7:39:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Interesting stuff, folks. The CIA's Venezuela Desk might not be worth a shit - but you know it is fully staffed with a non-trivial number because of our dependence upon Venezuelan oil contracts - a major supplier. The events surrounding his election (pickpocket theft) and then the recall (an obvious mugging), with estimates of a million people in the streets, certainly give pause to what we are and are not doing and makes me wonder about the population splits for and against Chavez. Thanks to Jimmuh, we'll never know. I do feel we are involved because of his asshatted actions on behalf of the Chavez regime.

It was a rant (note the tags - not an accident) and I do not know enough hard detail to say precisely what I think we should do and back it up with cold hard stats. But my gut tells me we should not be waiting for Chavez to complete his consolidation of power - we should be intervening and setting his ass up for a fall. I say this in the spirit of the rant and that troubling feeling that a mistake here is also a mistake for the entire South American continent.

Posted by .com 2004-12-09 7:53:22 PM|| 2004-12-09 7:53:22 PM|| Front Page Top

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