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2004-12-21 Iraq-Jordan
Allawi in negotiations with Baathist supporters
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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-12-21 12:09:13 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 But Mr Allawi yesterday sounded a conciliatory note on the Ba’athists, whose exclusion from key military and other positions in the new Iraq have been identified as a leading source of the insurgency. He distinguished between former Ba’athists who had committed crimes and those who "had to" join the party.

It's sad, but it seems to me that they need to imprison or execute those who committed crimes or cannot participate in the new govnt. It should be fairly clear by now, who is who in terms of those willing to participate and those who should be condemned.
Posted by 2b 2004-12-21 8:25:10 AM||   2004-12-21 8:25:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 It should be fairly clear by now, who is who in terms of those willing to participate and those who should be condemned.

Seems to me that any offer to negotiate should only be made once. Those that try to hedge their bets by holding out to see how things turn out and wait for a second or third offer of "amnesty" aren't likely to be people that can be trusted.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-12-21 4:29:00 PM||   2004-12-21 4:29:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Big mistake and the Achilles Heel to success in the Iraq and the ME in general. So, Allawi is sending the message across the globe that violent resistance is a legitimate form of political engagement and that people who carry it out are worthy of meeting with the prime minister several months after they've sawed off contractors' heads and executed Iraqi enlistees. Israel and the US have been working so hard to communicate that terrorism is not legitimate political engagement. This will come back and haunt Iraq. Let's say Allawi works it out with them, lets them in, encourages their participation, and all stays calm for a while. Iraq has their elections, we reduce our forces, the rest of the coalition dissolves away, millions and millions of rebuilding and investment take place--and the insurgents are sitting in the perfect position to sabotage it all-they still have their connections and could bomb all that progress and trust to smithereens in a few seconds flat. Minister Allawi-you've been listening a little too closely to your Euro Paleo advocates. It's a mistake-don't do this.
Posted by Jules 187 2004-12-21 4:49:53 PM||   2004-12-21 4:49:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#4  He distinguished between former Ba’athists who had committed crimes and those who "had to" join the party.
Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-12-21 4:54:24 PM||   2004-12-21 4:54:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 ..between former Ba’athists who had committed crimes and those who "had to" join the party.

Those that "had to" should be among the first to be receptive to the first chance at joining a peaceful political process then, since the implication is that they joined out of necessity, and not because Baathism appealed to them. Waiting for additional offers of amnesty tells me that these types are only opportunists, and aren't people worthy of investing any substantial amount of trust in.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-12-21 5:09:46 PM||   2004-12-21 5:09:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Iyad Allawi yesterday said he had held meetings with supporters of Saddam Hussein’s former regime now backing a violent insurgency against his interim government.
Posted by Jules 187 2004-12-21 5:25:29 PM||   2004-12-21 5:25:29 PM|| Front Page Top

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