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2003-04-21 Iraq

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Posted by Fred Pruitt 2003-04-21 09:18 am|| || Front Page|| [11 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Damn--if this is what the Iraqi people want, it's going to be interesting to see if we let them. My fear, though, is if they do set up a theocracy we'll find ourselves back there again in 12 years.

What is it with dictators and jihad-spouting imams that appeals to these fools anyway? Democracy and personal responsibility too much to stomach? Easier to blame the West and the Jews than actually solving your own problems?

Posted by Dar 2003-04-21 10:28:32|| 2003-04-21 10:28:32|| Front Page Top

#2 What is it with dictators and jihad-spouting imams that appeals to these fools anyway?

Don't know, but a good move would be to undermine Iran's mullahs. If there's any instability or unrest in the ME, chances are they have some sort of hand in it.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-04-21 11:13:58|| 2003-04-21 11:13:58|| Front Page Top

#3 For a bit on "jihad-spouting imams", check out this little bit of fun from Orson Scott Card: www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2002-07-08-1.html

Posted by FormerLiberal 2003-04-21 12:05:44|| 2003-04-21 12:05:44|| Front Page Top

#4 let the Iraqi people vote...so what is zionist liebermanns business in Iraq anyway..isnt taking care of Israel enough for him...Iraq for the Iraqis...and if the mullahs win election so be it...that is what freedom is all about ...one man one vote ....no two ways to it.....

Posted by stevey robinson 2003-04-21 12:05:58|| 2003-04-21 12:05:58|| Front Page Top

#5 "let the Iraqi people vote...so what is zionist liebermanns business in Iraq anyway..isnt taking care of Israel enough for him...Iraq for the Iraqis...and if the mullahs win election so be it...that is what freedom is all about ...one man one vote ....no two ways to it....."
Posted by: stevey robinson 4/21/2003 12:05:58 PM

First things first, you're not going to find the sledding here all that smooth if you toss around phrases like "zionist"--all too often, that word precedes a long spittle-filled rant from an Islamic facist.

Secondly, the problem with the mullahs winning an election is that the "one man one vote" doctrine you espoused tends to get washed away and replaced with an Islamic theocratic state in rather short order.

If the coalition went to all of the trouble to remove ONE dangerous totalitarian regime, there is not a reason in the world why it should not ALSO take careful steps to make sure we're not going to have to repeat this effort in a few short years. No matter how much you may dislike such a notion, doing so is only prudent.

Posted by Flaming Sword 2003-04-21 12:22:09|| 2003-04-21 12:22:09|| Front Page Top

#6 Stevey? ever met a guy named Murat?

Posted by Frank G 2003-04-21 12:38:01|| 2003-04-21 12:38:01|| Front Page Top

#7 I think Stevey IS Murat. The test? Let's mention a million and a half murdered Armenians and see how long he hangs around.

Posted by tu3031 2003-04-21 13:06:44|| 2003-04-21 13:06:44|| Front Page Top

#8 Steve reminds me of a point I pondered long, long ago, back when I was young, and T. Rex roamed the Earth. ^_^

I look at it this way.. I was certain that *I* was perfectly capable of handling all the freedom I wanted when I was 15. My parents begged to differ. Unfortunately for my macho ego, my parents were right.

I'm wondering if America and the rest of the Anglosphere are merely semi-responsible teenagers in a world full of irresponsible children...

Ed Becerra

Posted by Ed Becerra 2003-04-21 21:04:13|| 2003-04-21 21:04:13|| Front Page Top

#9 Oh STEVEY don't you wanna let the WOMEN vote too?

Posted by anon1 2003-04-21 22:09:40|| 2003-04-21 22:09:40|| Front Page Top

#10 Islamic democracies are simpler than western democracies: "One man (no women), one vote, one time only."

Posted by Tresho 2003-04-21 15:00:16|| 2003-04-21 15:00:16|| Front Page Top

#11 stevey, stevey, stevey. Give it a rest, ok?
This rant is even more pathetic than the previous one. Automatic -5 for using "zionist", then your inability to spell Lieberman's name correctly when it has been used in the article you are commenting on cancels out more points. If you're going to spew like this, style is everything.
Nice twist, however, using a more Germanic spelling along with the word "zionist", and not capitalizing either one. Sprechen Sie deutsch, meine stevey??
Look, dear, in English, we capitalize proper nouns, such as names, even when those names belong to a Jew. Yeah, I know you probably don't even see them as people, but Americans in general are funny that way.....we do.
I give this rant a 2.
I don't think stevey is Murat, guys. stevey probably doesn't even know what an Armenian IS, and thinks Kurds are something he finds in his cottage cheese. However, if he is a German, calling him a Turk would not be something he would enjoy.

Posted by Baba Yaga 2003-04-21 16:10:34|| 2003-04-21 16:10:34|| Front Page Top

#12 Steve reminds me of a point I pondered long, long ago, back when I was young, and T. Rex roamed the Earth. ^_^

I look at it this way.. I was certain that *I* was perfectly capable of handling all the freedom I wanted when I was 15. My parents begged to differ. Unfortunately for my macho ego, my parents were right.

I'm wondering if America and the rest of the Anglosphere are merely semi-responsible teenagers in a world full of irresponsible children...

Ed Becerra

Posted by Ed Becerra 2003-04-21 21:00:37|| 2003-04-21 21:00:37|| Front Page Top

#13 Islamic Republic are mutually exclusive.
A republic by it's very nature is inclusive of all citezens,not just Muslems.
One of the basic tenants of Islam is that no other religion has a ligitimate reason to be involved in government,much less have in right to exist at all.
History has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt the necessity of"Seperation of Church and State".Theocratic control of governement is a formula for repression and disaster.

Posted by raptor 2003-04-22 09:42:43|| 2003-04-22 09:42:43|| Front Page Top

#14 Iraq needs a secular government-PERIOD! This would protect everyone whether Muslim, Christan or something else. The women of Iraq need a say representative of their numbers.
So far, the number of women the US has involved in making decisions concerning the future of the Iraqi government is pitiful.

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