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2003-07-21 Home Front
Tax the rich, educate the ?poor?
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Posted by Cyber Sarge 2003-07-21 5:27:10 PM|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 This is one of many reasons that I won't be coming back to CA, if I do come back stateside. Believe me, I miss Del Mar - a drop dead gorgeous place. I think the best overall life for the $$$ appears to be Austin or San Antonio TX - after looking at the numbers all over the US for the last year.
Posted by PD 2003-7-21 5:57:42 PM||   2003-7-21 5:57:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 What about CO? As in towards the southern half of the state?
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-7-21 6:03:46 PM||   2003-7-21 6:03:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 3 grand "outrageous"? Try paying for Stanford sometime, dink.
Posted by mojo 2003-7-21 6:22:19 PM||   2003-7-21 6:22:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 I guess that UC has to raise the rates because of the nasty letters of refusal for contributions to my alma martyr mater of UC Berkeley. Sorry I did not pay my fair share, folks, but one trip back to Berkeley pissed me off so bad that I've never been back to the campus. First clean it up physically, fiscally, and politically to make it a center for scholarship and not for indoctrination.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-7-21 6:37:33 PM||   2003-7-21 6:37:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 B-A-R - I love CO (lived in Utah & Idaho over 8 yr span) - but taxes ruled it out - you have a State Income Tax, IIRC. That was the first hard criterion I used to cut down the list. I looked long at CO, UT, ID, WY, MT, & NV (cuz I knew them so well) and Alaska, New Mex, TX, and Florida.

I wanted either mountains or the ocean, but that's what everyone else wants, too.

I miss the mountains and the fact that you can drive 20 minutes in any direction and be 10 minutes away from "civilization." Sweet. I used to go deer hunting in the Book Cliffs area, I think it was called. So long ago...

Are you in the 4 corners area? Grow pinto beans in Cortez, perhaps?
Posted by PD 2003-7-21 7:09:52 PM||   2003-7-21 7:09:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 PD come on up here. I live in the mountains. We have avalanches. Great fishing, trees, glaciers, Prince William Sound, the world's largest deep water picture postcard, Hike out your back yard and you are in the wilderness, bears attacking ones bird feeder. Snow in winter. The whole nine yards...heh heh.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-7-21 7:58:15 PM||   2003-7-21 7:58:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Was anyone else irritated by the Times' uncritical use of the words "rich" and "wealthy"? We are talking about $90K FAMILY income, which means if hubby makes $60K and wifey $30K they qualify as "rich". Anyway, I live in L.A. and trust me, $90K is only making-ends-meet middle class around here.
Posted by TPF  2003-7-21 8:36:46 PM||   2003-7-21 8:36:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Are you in the 4 corners area?

No, although I am familiar with that area. I am currently in CA, and am seeking to get out if this hellhole sometime in the future. The only thing that keeps me here is my decent-paying job at some high tech firm. I had my eye on CO Springs, or Pueblo.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-7-21 8:51:17 PM||   2003-7-21 8:51:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 AP - I've been trying to post a reply for over an hour. Only short stuff goes thru. Sorry!
Posted by PD 2003-7-21 9:05:14 PM||   2003-7-21 9:05:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 AP - I:
1) "met" Anchorage Alice
2) experienced the wild time of 2 pipeline welders "buying out the bar" in the Capt Cook
3) drove over Turnagin Pass to Seward & back
4) slept in my client's A-frame on the foothills above Anch and woke up at 4:00 AM to see a bear going through his garbage 3 feet away through the wall of glass on the front of his "chalet"
5) had 6-egg omelettes with 2 lbs of fresh crabmeat smothered in mornay sauce costing $20
6) heard radio commercials directing the trappers to be at the Anch Sears parking lot on such and such day - the pelt buyers would be set up and loaded with cash

Quite a place!
Posted by PD 2003-7-21 9:08:02 PM||   2003-7-21 9:08:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Without the taxes, I'd love it. I agree CO Springs looks like an interesting place. Don't know Pueblo. I don't know what's important to you, but Austin is a fun / vibrant locale with UT - lots of hi-tech co's. I'm a programmer (30 yrs) - doing web apps for the last 7. I might even decide to work a little, if I go there, but Thailand is working out fine as a place to hang out till things improve in US.
Posted by PD 2003-7-21 9:12:56 PM||   2003-7-21 9:12:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 PD---We have bandwidth up the wazoo to Outside and Japan with fiber optic cables....I've got a Cessna 172 Stealth Chickenhawk, you know, just like the one that Matthias Rust landed in Red Square from Germany under Soviet Radar........
Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-7-21 9:26:59 PM||   2003-7-21 9:26:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 AP- I don't have a license, but a friend's father was a Capt at American and taught me how to fly, more or less, when I was about 11. He was my "rich" friend. Did a little time in a Piper tail-dragger and an Aeronca (sp?) Air Coupe - but never tried his Piper TriPacer or his Waco biplane. The Waco would've been OK, but I was scared of the Piper's tricycle gear. Controlled crash was my landing style and it looked too fragile to me!

Getting a license is one of the things I'll do if I come back to The World.
Posted by PD 2003-7-21 9:43:40 PM||   2003-7-21 9:43:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 I did make 90K in CA, and felt far from rich. Stoopeds. CA wants to raise taxes on smokes, cut education, and now this. I guess Gov. Gray thinks that smokers, elementary school students, and middle class engineers/programmers/etc. caused the deficit, so they should pay for it. I will not miss the left coast ...
Posted by Beau - CA Escapee  2003-7-21 10:36:06 PM||   2003-7-21 10:36:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Frank G - I'm gonna break this response into 2 parts - having problems with my connection...

Del Mar & Solana Beach was where I lived in the 3 yrs I was there. I stayed on the Western side of I-5 for that great "marine layer effect". 22 lanes? Hayzoos Christay! That's outrageous! They prolly still have that unwritten law that sez you can't change just one lane at a time, too. Wanna move over 1 lane to the left? You gotta go 2 right and then 3 left. I'm pretty sure it's a law. Everyone drives that way 'round there. Can't ALL be crazy, can they? (snicker)

SD is one beautiful place - if you're near the coast - with 350 days of motorcycle weather a year - real sigh.
Posted by PD 2003-7-22 12:50:46 AM||   2003-7-22 12:50:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 Frank G - Part 2
I looked at maps of NV to try to figure out where the biz is and concluded there just wasn't likely to be enough clients available unless I wanted Vegas. I do web apps - and there is some serious biz there in my game, but I don't know the place or anyone - and it's not like they don't have any unemployment. I thought Carson City / Reno looked best, regards living - Vegas is just reclaimed desert. Is CC/Reno big enough and busy enuff for yet another a guy doing web apps, you think? I DO like the tax game in NV - for biz, too.

I am currently thinking about TX cuz it's doing well, low COL, I know it inside out, and have some connections.
Posted by PD 2003-7-22 12:52:32 AM||   2003-7-22 12:52:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 Frank G - Shit, it takes 3 passes to complete...
Alaska IS a trip and, if you can find a job that covers what you want, an awesomely beautiful place. Unforgiving as hell, if you fuck up, but if you're on your toes, it's really cool.
Posted by PD 2003-7-22 12:53:29 AM||   2003-7-22 12:53:29 AM|| Front Page Top

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