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2003-08-07 -Short Attention Span Theater-
EU regulators level anti-trust allegations against Microsoft
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Posted by Raphael 2003-08-07 8:53:55 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 EU regulators level anti-trust allegations against Microsoft

This is the EU's way of hamstringing American companies that European firms can't compete with. Maybe we need to start going after Airbus and European firms without plants here.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2003-8-7 9:12:28 AM||   2003-8-7 9:12:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "a fine of up to 10 per cent of worldwide sales"

That's interesting: not EU sales, but worldwide sales. So the companies with territories larger than the EU can pay higher fines than companies solely in the EU. Anybody think that would be fair?

"abuses are still ongoing."

Got a problem? Get a different operating system. Buy an EU computer with an EU operating system. Sheeesh! Long on diplomats, politicians, and lawyers; short on productivity.
Posted by Tom 2003-8-7 10:30:47 AM||   2003-8-7 10:30:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 "not WOT, but what the heck..."
Just wait till the Apple jihadies show up...
Posted by Steve  2003-8-7 10:31:14 AM||   2003-8-7 10:31:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 So, what if MS said "fine, we won't sell any software in Europe", and stuck to it?

Wouldn't they be squeezin' out little blue bricks then, eh?

"No updates for you!" screams the software nazi...
Posted by mojo  2003-8-7 10:39:42 AM||   2003-8-7 10:39:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Wow - cool, mojo! Can you imagine the incredible expense and grief and time and retraining and a hundred other issues - if MS just said "fine, fuckoff" and pulled up stakes in every EU country? Tom's point about the amount demonstrates the EU's limitless arrogance, too. This certainly has the look and feel of an opportunistic copycat legal rape of a cash-rich US company. Can you say "tobacco" or "guns" or "McDonalds" - ad infinitum ad nauseum.

One thing is clearer than clear - the world has become a wannabee gutless-turd loser's paradise - and it doesn't pay to become too successful. Unless you're a lawyer, of course.
Posted by Â·com 2003-8-7 12:15:42 PM||   2003-8-7 12:15:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm the resident Apple jihadi here (you'll pry my one-button mouse out of my cold, dead fingers!), but even I have some sympathy for Microsoft on this one.

How 'bout having the EU document the alleged abuses in a courtroom? Whatever one thought of the DOJ going after Microsoft, in the end one had a legal findings and a judgment. What the Euro Commission is trying to do is nothing more than squeeze MS -- "agree with us or we'll fine you!" Nuts to that. PD (I can't bring myself to call him *com) is right, this is the tobacco war all over again.

I can only imagine "EU-OS" (pronounced "eeuuuu-os": could it possibly work as well as the EU itself does? Can anyone imagine the install procedure and the software?

"To continue installation, please provide the following three pages of information, a blood and semen sample, and 70% of next year's income (abort/retry/die)".

The possibilities are endless!

And don't suggest Linux. Linux by definition is "open", which the EU will never be.
Posted by Steve White  2003-8-7 12:34:58 PM||   2003-8-7 12:34:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 "Long on diplomats, politicians, and lawyers; short on productivity."

That's Europe's entire problem - there are so many bureaucracies, so many laws, that innovation and entrepreneurship is totally stifled, and progress in ANY field is virtualy non-existent. There's also a level of common sense in Europe that approaches triple negative numbers.

Another idea that the European Union is going to have to drop damned soon is that they are the WORLD Arbitrators, and can do anything, anywhere, against anyone, for anything at all. Either that, or there needs to be a VERY BIG BOOM in Brussels. Talk about inflated egos!!!!!
Posted by Old Patriot  2003-8-7 1:17:39 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2003-8-7 1:17:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 And don't suggest Linux.

Heard in various systems departments: "Linux is cheaper only if your time is free".
Posted by Zhang Fei  2003-8-7 3:04:01 PM||   2003-8-7 3:04:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The city of Munich decided to drop Microsoft and go Linux, other German cities to follow.
Posted by True German Ally 2003-8-7 4:31:48 PM||   2003-8-7 4:31:48 PM|| Front Page Top

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