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2003-08-09 Southeast Asia

Malaysian PM accuses rich countries of fuelling terrorism

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Posted by Fred Pruitt 2003-08-09 15:53|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The Malaysian Prime Minister described the hijackers as frustrated and angry young people and said that America's response had been no less brutal than the attacks themselves.

He's just angry that Malaysia no longer gets the revenues from hosting terror conferences. Significant amounts of the planning for 9/11 were done in Malaysia. One of the hijackers was Malaysian. These days, he's too worried about American retaliation to actively cooperate with al Qaeda.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2003-8-9 4:13:55 PM|| 2003-8-9 4:13:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 One can hold out hope that, before he retires to the loot he's plundered in his dictatorship, Malaysia will have one or more of their home-grown Izzoids take a dump or two on the dining table, ala Indonesia. That would be sweetly apropos.

I have no doubt that the fact that it hasn't happened yet on the same scale means his "government" is complicit and working closely with their asshats. It's not as if their Izzoid terrorists are any smarter than Indonesia's and know better than to shit where they eat - pfeh - same, same. As for Mahathir, if he's any smarter than the other Motherfucking Izzoid-Loving Dictatorsâ¢ in the world, it may lie in the fact that he keeps everything low-key and off the radar screen. So far, anyway. But Complicit? Cooperative? A Sponsor? A Facilitator? An Apologist? No doubts at all on any of these - and more.

The shit will come home to roost - sooner or later. Sooner, I hope. This loony's meandering Izzoid-apologist / West-bashing drivel has lost its humorous novelty, methinks.

Posted by Â·com 2003-8-9 5:52:14 PM|| 2003-8-9 5:52:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 his "government" is complicit and working closely with their asshats.

It's widely thought that Malaysia was supporting Muslim terrorists in both Thailand and the Philippines for decades. The recent hostage deal to get Western hostages released from Abu Sayyaf's clutches came with a $1m "ransom" financed by Gaddafi. They call it ransom - I call it sponsorship. Given Malaysia's long record of supporting Muslim terrorists - branching out to covertly helping al Qaeda would have been no big stretch.

Malaysia's version of Islam is extreme compared to the relaxed Indonesian version. Local Muslims are subject to Islamic laws on certain things (such as divorce, among other things)*, which is not true in thoroughly secular Indonesia. Muslims in Indonesia drink beer, eat pork, etc. without fear of being arrested - in Malaysia, they would end up in the clink.

* If you recall, there was a flap about Muslim men in Malaysia being able to divorce their wives via text messages. Not possible in Indonesia, which requires the usual secular formalities.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2003-8-9 6:10:30 PM|| 2003-8-9 6:10:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 ZF - 100% agreement on every point - excellent and informative post - as per your standards! I read that the text message divorce was approved as being valid, too. Islam: Breakfast of Gutless Turds. Too chickenshit to tell her to her face - when she has no more standing in society than a pet dog - that defines gutless.

I am of two minds about whether or not it is a good thing for countries with the popular inclination to formally become "Islamic States" to do so. That does make our job of identifying the most complicit assholes that much easier. OTOH, we lose any cooperation from those who aren't total idiotarians in the govt in question - losing valuable intelligence.

Indonesia will not hold out long, if the Paul Maloney article is on target - Milliwati and her secular govt will fall fast if they aren't willing to take fight to the asshats and go all the way. The situation in Asia must be (or should be, anyway) extremely worrying and unsettling to Singapore, Thailand, Cambodia / Kampuchea, et al. It's hard to tell in Thailand as they appear to be in denial - calling their Southern Izzoids infiltrating up from Malaysia "bandits." Cute, huh?

I have pondered the productivity costs to have so many people and so much treasure dedicated to destruction - as opposed to being gainfully employed. Since they throw away half of their potential brainpower at birth (their wymyn) they are already severly handicapped. I have reached the conclusion that 2 things are key to the Islamic menace and it would utterly collapse without them:
1) the West continuing to progress - and selling the tools, services, and components to them (this includes a huge number of things, from electronic banking to machine tools to arms to air travel)
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2) the oil dollars from the GCC states, Iran, and the occasional outlier source (Brunei, Libya, etc) to fill in the funding gap

I am certain we can address both of these, and will - eventually. Item #2 will come first: we will soon be forced to face the facts about the Saudis, the UAE and other lesser GCC loonies, and the Iranians. Cut off the money and you severly hamper the menace - we've seen this clearly and, to the apparent surprise of the press types, many of these "redicals" or "militants" are merely merc assholes who would disappear if they weren't being paid to do this shit.

We should crush all of the funding countries. That means exactly what it says, IMHO. We should have just stayed in Saudi after Gulf War I and sent the asshats back to the desert. Think how different things would be today if we'd just followed this little bit of Patton logic - 75% (???) of the funding disappearing overnight and forever? And I AM talking about the OIL this time. We just fucking take it as the payment for the fact that we were required to do this in self-defense. Fuck everyone who doesn't like it - they haven't read anough history to even engage in the conversation.

As for item #1, we may never have to cut off the flow of goodies - which enable them - to stem their activities if we take item #2 seriously enough. If we do, this will do the trick, though it will be massively painful economically. Someday, however, if the PC mentality wins out and #2 isn't pursued to its logical conclusion, we will be forced to do #1. Imagine how long air travel will continue after we cut off parts, training, etc. - as an example. There are thousands of things they need in order to do their terrorist gig - that we provide them. That can be controlled or stopped as the situation demands.

Just some On The Beach level thoughts.

Posted by Â·com 2003-8-9 8:18:19 PM|| 2003-8-9 8:18:19 PM|| Front Page Top

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