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2003-11-12 Arabia
Can Riyadh reform before the royal family falls?
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Posted by Mike 2003-11-12 6:25:25 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Can Riyadh reform in time to avoid their own destruction? I sure fucking hope not. They do not deserve to survive any of this shit that they have been funding and inciting around the world. They deserve to be buried alive, doused in gasoline and set on fire. Just my .02
Posted by ISLAM SUCKS 2003-11-12 10:31:35 AM||   2003-11-12 10:31:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 But will the new rulers be better than the old ones? I doubt it. And a civil war will disrupt oil prices and supplies in a big way, especially if it happens before Iraq comes online again. Can you spell depression? (And it would get a lot harder to fight a war with money in short supply.)

What would be ideal? I hope for a democratic and friendly Arabia; but I don't see it happening.
As a fallback, how about partitioning S.A--the Shi'ites get the oil, the Jordanian Hashemites get the holy sites back, and the Saudis get the empty quarter. That won't happen either, unless somebody helps.
Posted by James 2003-11-12 11:01:48 AM|| [http://www.idontknowbut.blogspot.com]  2003-11-12 11:01:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 The scent of revolution is in the air. How this all plays out will be of monumental significance. I'd say the die is cast and the kingdom is doomed. Hows that for appopolitic(?) blather.
Posted by Lucky 2003-11-12 11:46:04 AM||   2003-11-12 11:46:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 
But will the new rulers be better than the old ones?
No. They would be replaced by radicals that make the bigot saudi royals look like jew loving moderates by comparison. But that doesn't matter. After the royals fall, we can go in and kill the radicals in one of the capitals of jihad inc, AKA Arabia. And if the people that come to power in arabia after that are worse than the radicals, then topple them too. Keep doing it until they either begin to figure it out, or a thrown into such profound chaos, that they have no ability to focus attacks on us, rather they will be much more concerned with the difficult task of finding enough food to make it through the day.
Posted by ISLAM SUCKS 2003-11-12 12:18:02 PM||   2003-11-12 12:18:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I agree with IS. There will be chaos in that country when the revolution comes. First off, all the foreigners will skeedaddle, westerners, paks, phillipinos, everyone. This means that the plumbing won't work, the lights will go out, the cars won't get fixed and most certainly, the oil won't flow.

Hopefully we will let it descend into some chaos before we go in and restore order. I'm guessing that there will be more support for us on this one since countries like Japan, Korea and much of Western Europe depend on oil from the Soddys.

Their killing one another will be an interesting spectacle. No one deserves it more (Bad Bob in Zimbabwe does come in a close second...maybe tied with the black hats in Iran).
Posted by remote man 2003-11-12 1:29:41 PM||   2003-11-12 1:29:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#6  If Suadi falls into chaos and the oil stops,who will be winners and losers?
Winner:Russia.All that Siberian oil Europe,Japan and China will pay anything for.
Winner:whoever gains control of Spratley(?)Islands and oil underneath.Contenders-China(one reason China is expanding navy),Phillipines and Vietnam(one reason Vietnam wants better relations w/US).
Winner:England.That North Sea oil is really gonna look good.Will have to guard against attempts to Euro-ize the oil.
Loser:Palestinian terror orgs.Losing all that Saudi funding is gonna hurt.
Loser:Islamic schools and "churches".See above.
Loser:Continental Europe.No local oil,no way to project power to grab some.
Push:Uncle Sam is really gonna be interested in who is running Venezuela,Columbia and Mexico.
Posted by Stephen 2003-11-12 2:55:36 PM||   2003-11-12 2:55:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Other winner Norway.
Posted by Shipman 2003-11-12 3:47:31 PM||   2003-11-12 3:47:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Missed some key ingredients here: Can Nigeria keep from going totally fundamentalist Islamic? Will Libya waffle again? What will the black turbantops in Iran do? How about Azerbaijan and Georgia (lots of oil there, too, remember!)?

One key winner, if it's in place and stable enough at that time, will be a democratic Iraq. That will be the key to success or failure of the entire Islamofascist putsch. If Iraq can build and maintain a stable government, the Islamofascists lose, big-time.

Another winner will be Israel. Without Saudi money, the Paleos will dry up and blow away - literally. There is no economy to support them but the Israeli economy. There will be some MAJOR changes in the Middle East!

Another key question will be Egypt. If Egypt really stays out of the fray, the chance of major positive changes in the ME will be possible. If Egypt interferes, it will muddy the waters just enough to make everything take longer and cost more, includinng US lives.
Posted by Old Patriot  2003-11-12 6:43:38 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2003-11-12 6:43:38 PM|| Front Page Top

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