Article

2003-11-12 East Asia

Japanese Navy Spots Submarine, Has Flashback to 1945

Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.

Posted by Steve 2003-11-12 11:16:36 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Let's see. As I recall, you can get through the anti-sub nets at the mouth of Tokyo Bay by hiding underneath a freighter as it passes through the mine fields and the net. Getting out is tougher.

Oh, wait... WWII flashback. Time for my meds.

The Romeo is very noisy, I believe.

Posted by Chuck Simmins 2003-11-12 11:56:47 AM|| [http://blog.simmins.org] 2003-11-12 11:56:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Getting out is tougher.

Nah, getting out is easy. You wait for the bombing raid, then scoot out when they open the nets to let the fleet escape. That's when you get the shot at the carrier.

Posted by Steve 2003-11-12 12:55:07 PM|| 2003-11-12 12:55:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Any sub that displaces 2,000 tons isn't likely to be a coastal boat. That puts you square into pelagic territory. Consider these subs, past and present, with their displacements:

USS Balao class: 1,526 tons
(US fleet subs ranged all over the Pacific)
German Type IXC: 1,540 tons
(Used during 'Paukenschlag' to attack as far south
as Florida)
German Type XXI: 1,819 tons
(Precursor of the Romeo's)

Finally, considering that the Mings have a range of 8,000 miles (see: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/plan/ming.htm ), and that southern Honshu is only about 600 miles from the Chinese mainland, the only surprising thing is that they haven't found them sooner.

Posted by Bill 2003-11-12 2:08:31 PM|| 2003-11-12 2:08:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Hope the seas get rough. Then you'll see whether the thing can still submerge. If they plan to deploy it, they will have to make arrangements to refuel it. Hope it doesn't disappear without a trace.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-11-12 7:26:50 PM|| 2003-11-12 7:26:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 France immediately surrendered to the PRC upon hearing the news.

Posted by Anonymous 2003-11-12 8:51:51 PM|| 2003-11-12 8:51:51 PM|| Front Page Top

01:15 Bayan Elashi
22:46 alaskasoldier
23:08 Atomic Conspiracy
23:01 Old Patriot
23:01 Laurence of the Rats
22:55 Bomb-a-rama
22:49 Old Patriot
22:46 Atomic Conspiracy
22:37 Old Patriot
22:30 Old Patriot
22:28 Atomic Conspiracy
22:23 Old Patriot
22:23 War46
22:22 Bomb-a-rama
22:14 Atomic Conspiracy
22:12 Old Patriot
22:11 Rawsnacks
21:51 Old Patriot
21:46 Old Patriot
21:29 IceCold
21:25 Anonymous
21:15 Jarhead
21:13 Tony (UK)
21:12 debbie