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2003-12-18 Europe
Al-Q going after the Vatican?
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Posted by OldSpook 2003-12-18 3:20:38 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 The big impacts would be a complete shattering and dividing the Islamic world (they'd finally be forced to publicly take a side), and the unification of Christianity in opposition to Islamist/Wahhabbi fascits terror. And (from my relapsed Catholic viewpoint) maybe the Vatican will finally realize that there is Evil out there that cannot be reasoned with, it must be driven out by force.
Posted by OldSpook 2003-12-18 3:22:56 AM||   2003-12-18 3:22:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Binny can't be that divorced from reality can he? This would destroy him and his vision of Islam. It would have exactly the opposite effect he would desire, and I doubt Allah would be able save him. Even as an act of faith, I'd bet Allah would tell him, "Sorry, you are on your own."
Posted by Ben  2003-12-18 4:59:58 AM||   2003-12-18 4:59:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm not sure how much Christianity as a whole would be unified by an attack on the Vatican, but I suspect it would motivate Latin Americans to go on the attack against al-Q camps in Venezuela and other places where they are taking root. If an attack like this happens, it might cause Latin Americans to see this as a global issue, not just an issue for the envied/hated US.
Posted by rkb  2003-12-18 6:15:24 AM||   2003-12-18 6:15:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Last I heard Christianity was the largest religion on Earth,with Catholics being the largest branch.An attack on the Vatican would be seen as an attack on all Christianity,the same as an attack on Mecca or Medina would be viewed by Moslems as an attack on all Islam.
If Moslems are stupid enough to attack the Vatican then Binny and his boys would get thier wish and would have a Holy War on thier hands.This could easilly mean the destruction of Islam,millions on both sides would die but Islam will loose(I can just hear Not Merly Mundanes's whinning already).
Despite what Pries.Bush and the PC crowd claim,if one side kills in the name of a Holy War then it is a religious war.
Posted by raptor  2003-12-18 8:01:24 AM||   2003-12-18 8:01:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Raptor and rkb are correct in their facts: Christianity and Catholicism are really big south of the equator. So big, that the American Catholics were astonished when the Vatican ignored THEIR liberal-wet-dream demands and Stayed conservative in deference to the Southern hemisphere. The biggest opposition to the elevation of that homosexual bishop was from the non-american bishops and membership. Don't expect the liberal-protestant-mainline churches to endorse anything: The muslims, in their view, are killing off the Christians who are a thorn in their sides.

What will happen if the vatican or other religious building is bombed? I dunno: Oriana Fallaci has written about the daily desecration of Cathedrals and artistic monuments in Italy, and has earned hisses and boos in response.
Posted by Ptah  2003-12-18 8:20:00 AM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2003-12-18 8:20:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Well, Dean would blame Bush for an Al Q attack on the vatican. So would at least 6 or 7 of the Dem candidates.

Many of the Eurowimps would retreat to 'solve the root causes' excuse.

At the UC Berkeley faculty lounge they would raise their coffee cups in a toast and would say, "those Catholic conservatives deserved it"

The Muslim world would blame the Jews.

The Arabs would say that it was an American plot to take away Arab dignity.

The NY Times would say that blacks and hispanics would be the chief victims of a wider war and would blame Bush.

The Washington Post would be very concerned and would blame it on Bush.

NPR would blame it on Bush's supreme court nominees.

The BBC would blame it on Bush and Blair both.
Posted by mhw 2003-12-18 11:01:22 AM||   2003-12-18 11:01:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 And the Sicilians would quietly handle the problem in their own unique style.
Posted by Steve  2003-12-18 12:38:02 PM||   2003-12-18 12:38:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Whoever got the blame, the Spaniards and Portuguese would demand something be done about it, Italy would react in an upheaval that would make the Jewish Diaspora look like a Protestant Sunday school picnic, Poland and Hungary would likely declare war, and things would get really, REALLY ugly all over the world. CAIR would make a few stupid statements, which may or may not result in retaliation. The one result that would be undeniable is that it would wake up 2/3 of the world to the fact that this is a total clash between Islamofascism and the rest of the world, whether they want to accept it or not. From there, things would go downhill in a hurry.
Posted by Old Patriot  2003-12-18 12:53:15 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2003-12-18 12:53:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Mhw brings up an interesting point when he says " At the UC Berkeley faculty lounge they would raise their coffee cups in a toast and would say, "those Catholic conservatives deserved it". I'm not sure if that's true because although its a relgious site the Sistine chapel and St. Peters still carry some weight in the leftist art world. If they shot the Pope and spared the art they wouldcertainly raise a toast, but if the art were destroyed they'd probably cry over the loss of art if not the lives.
Posted by ruprecht 2003-12-18 1:15:02 PM||   2003-12-18 1:15:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 The problem is that many Christians would blame Israel/Mossad for staging the attack and blaming binny. How sad.
Posted by PlanetDan 2003-12-18 1:44:16 PM||   2003-12-18 1:44:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 This is a religious issue: Muslims want to have a war with ROME because that is how the world ends. Therefore, questions about the logic or the strategy are besides the point. When Islam launches its war with Rome, the end will come, God will intervene, Jesus (yes, Jesus -- granted this "Jesus" is quite a bit different from the Christian Jesus) will return and so on. Here's a link to the islamic end of the world material:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/041.smt.html





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