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2004-02-03 Britain

Tougher anti-terror laws provoke protests

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Posted by Fred Pruitt 2004-02-03 00:10|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "Kennedy told BBC radio"

Is it the name, or are the lefties still not convinced that comparing western leaders to shitty 3th world dictators is, to put it mildly not a winning strategy?

Posted by Evert Visser 2004-2-3 8:56:03 AM|| [http://chinditz.blog-city.com/] 2004-2-3 8:56:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "I guess she doesn't really believe that Britain's at war."

Whether at war or not, I don't see any excuse on having people condemned on the "balance of probabilities" rather than "beyond reasonable doubt".

And Britain has been at war with terrorists in the past, aka the IRA. I don't see why Islamic Terrorists are so much more dangerous than Irish ones that you need to overthrow the whole basis of your legal system.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-2-3 11:37:39 AM|| 2004-2-3 11:37:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Aris, the Summer Olympics are coming to Athens soon, aren't they? And they're a lot bigger than the Winter Olympics, might be kind of harder to protect. Let's hope your country doesn't see up close and personal the difference between the Irish and Islamic terrorists.

Of course, there were those 3 Irish who were caught in Colombia. And I thought the IRA is starting to work w/other organizations?

Posted by Anonymous2U 2004-2-3 2:24:52 PM|| 2004-2-3 2:24:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 In wasn't the IRA that took down the Towers,Aris.
It's not the Provos slaughtering people all over the world,Aris.

Posted by Raptor 2004-2-3 2:25:42 PM|| 2004-2-3 2:25:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Aris pointed out a couple of days ago that often when something good happens in his neighborhood things are bound to go downhill. Sort of a reverse it's always darkest right before before the storm hits and the lights go out and the baby dies.
So Aris how do you feel about the Olympics?;>

Posted by Shipman 2004-2-3 3:12:07 PM|| 2004-2-3 3:12:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Anonymous2U> Yes, let us hope. And let us hope also that my country doesn't ever go back to secret trials and removing the presumption of innocence from defendants, because we've had some bitter experience of *that* as well, and if I have to choose between terrorists and dictators, I'll take the terrorists, thank you very much.

Atleast the Islamic terrorists wouldn't be pretending to be acting for my benefit.

Shipman> Oh, I feel quite worried indeed. But frankly it's not the *judicial process* that's worrying me, not enough anyway that I'd feel we should reform it and turn prosecutors and judges into effective dictators who will be able to conduct secret trials, condemning people using information that they'll be claiming to have but we wouldn't be able to actually know about.

Raptor> No, it wasn't the IRA that took down the Twin Towers. And it wasn't terrorists of any sort that took down Greek democracy. So frankly I'll be just as protective of democratic institution and civil liberties, thank you, and I WON'T bend over for authoritarianism just because I have terrorism in my face.

I hope that UK doesn't bend over either.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-2-3 3:31:09 PM|| 2004-2-3 3:31:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 turn prosecutors and judges into effective dictators who will be able to conduct secret trials, condemning people using information that they'll be claiming to have but we wouldn't be able to actually know about.
An unhappy experience Aris?

Posted by Shipman 2004-2-3 6:41:17 PM|| 2004-2-3 6:41:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Am too young for such unhappy experiences in Greece, thankfully. But that doesn't mean I can't learn from history.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-2-3 8:49:56 PM|| 2004-2-3 8:49:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Damn--Shipman sounds like the apologist for our speaking in tongues, religious nut Attorney General a/k/a Ashcroft who lost an election to a dead man and has devoted his career to wiping his ass on the Bill of Rights

Posted by NotMike Moore 2004-2-3 11:09:30 PM|| 2004-2-3 11:09:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Well, Aris, the downside for possible terrorism trials is that the perps might go boom.

And who you going to call to find the masterminds?

Funny thing, tho, is I've never really seen a trial in the US where the defendant is in a cage.

Posted by Anonymous2U 2004-2-3 11:28:35 PM|| 2004-2-3 11:28:35 PM|| Front Page Top

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