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2004-02-23 
Battling for Hearts and Minds
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Posted by Korora 2004-02-23 12:05:05 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 on the other hand--H bomb mecca and medina and turn them into a glass bowl not fit for a human visit for ten thousand years--destroy their religious holy of holies--annihilate their ulema--totally demoralize their religious beliefs and identity--make 'em ecomomic serfs and gradually re-educate 'em--it could work--ask montezuma--see anyone around fearing and worshipping quetzlcoatl lately?
Posted by SON OF TOLUI 2004-2-23 2:13:42 AM||   2004-2-23 2:13:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Interesting example.SOT
Posted by Raptor  2004-2-23 7:45:34 AM||   2004-2-23 7:45:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I have more hope for a positive outcome in Lebanon, for example, than I do in Haiti or Zimbabwe - neither of them are Islamic.
Posted by Super Hose  2004-2-23 9:18:40 AM||   2004-2-23 9:18:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Ask Montezuma? Mexico isn't my model for a successful outcome in Iraq by a long shot.
Posted by VAMark 2004-2-23 10:15:53 AM||   2004-2-23 10:15:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 VAMark - TOLUI wasn't suggesting that Mexico was the high-mark for democratic society - he was saying that the religion that was the center of Aztec society had been totally destroyed, and the very tiny few people that follow it today make no ripple in the fabric of society. He is suggesting destroying the heart of Islam as a means of destroying the absolute cradle-to-grave hold Islam imposes on its followers.
Posted by Old Patriot  2004-2-23 10:59:12 AM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2004-2-23 10:59:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 
we can’t expect that anyone will accept our critiques of Islam

They must learn to tolerate criticism of Islam.
Posted by Mike Sylwester  2004-2-23 12:57:35 PM||   2004-2-23 12:57:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Step 1 is the US and Europe should finance Turkish built and run Sufi Islam mosques and maddrasses throughout the Islamic world. This should be done at the same time Saudi Wahhabi mosques are closed or the Saudi's are convinced funding them is no longer in their best interests. Combine that with a few Turkish radio shows and hospitals throughout the old Ottoman territories.

That would do more to cut into terrorist funding and support than any kind of direct counter-Islamic campaign. I don't care if the Turk/Sufi's aren't American buddies, as long as they aren't our enemies.

Step 2. Be specific when the US goes after radical Islam that we mean (a) the Iranian Mullahs' misinterpretation of Shia'a (b) The Saudi Wahhabi sect.
Posted by ruprecht 2004-2-23 3:13:44 PM||   2004-2-23 3:13:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 To say that we cant influence the enemy is incorrect. Activily halting pro jihad propaganda distribution (in this case, replacing mosque speakers, censoring media) can have a good effect.

Financiers can be turned or executed if they dont cooperate.

If we get hit by a nuke because we want to play nice, we deserve it for being stupid.
Posted by flash91 2004-2-23 4:42:12 PM||   2004-2-23 4:42:12 PM|| Front Page Top

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