Article

2004-02-23

Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-02-23 3:12:59 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Oops, forgot that my Rantburg cookie had crumbled. This one is mine, so Michael Moore fans and osama bin Laden groupies should issue their fatwas accordingly.
I am an atheist, btw, but I choose to support my Jewish and Christian neighbors in this global war to preserve Judeo-Christian civilization (and what we have really is that, heathen commie propaganda notwithstanding).
The reason for my stance is simple. Since I can't shoot all of them (though I promise to try if it comes to that), the Islamofascists would gleefully hang me from the nearest tree, if not worse, for expressing disbelief in their barbarous moon god cult.
Christians may not like my beliefs, or lack of them, but I am in little danger of a lynching, let alone legal execution.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-2-23 3:23:22 AM|| 2004-2-23 3:23:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Well said Mr. AC!

I am also an atheist, view the WoT as clash between secular science and technology driven societies and religous fundamentalism (which for the purposes of this discussion includes much of the Left). I know who going to win. I'm just not sure of the body count required to get there.

Posted by phil_b 2004-2-23 4:51:48 AM|| 2004-2-23 4:51:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 You guy's are right,this"Clash of Civilazations" has been comeing for a long time.
I'm a Christian,and it doesn't matter a whole lot if you guy's believe in God or not I like ya anyway.

Posted by Raptor 2004-2-23 7:03:05 AM|| 2004-2-23 7:03:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Thank G-d I'm an athiest. Just kidding, couldn't help it......

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-2-23 8:27:35 AM|| 2004-2-23 8:27:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 If crusades are done by Christians, I wonder what a "holy" war led by athiests would be called? Re-eduacation campaign? Reason-ade? any ideas?

Posted by N Guard 2004-2-23 10:05:45 AM|| 2004-2-23 10:05:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 As a Buddhist, I don't need to follow church, mosque, or temple to believe in God, that's submitting to humans concepts of the divine. God isn't an ego, God is physical reality. At least Christians-Jews have a good heart, that's the side I'll be on when the world clashes.

Posted by LotusBlossem 2004-2-23 10:32:07 AM|| 2004-2-23 10:32:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Just a quick correction. Nyerere was never president of Zanbia. I think it was Tanzania. Zambia has had three presidents; Kaunda, Ciluba and the current Levy Mwanawasa. Useless info, I know.

Posted by kwame 2004-2-23 10:42:16 AM|| 2004-2-23 10:42:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 N. Guard
I'm not equating atheists with the commies (I would share a foxhole with any of the RB atheists), but the first atheist crusade was called the October Revolution.

Posted by whitecollar redneck 2004-2-23 12:26:30 PM|| 2004-2-23 12:26:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Kwame - welcome to Rantburg. Yep, Julius Nyrere was the first president of Tanganyika/Tanzania. Good catch. It may be "worthless information", but it's a typical Rantburg U comment! 8^).

Whitecollar redneck: Actually, the October Revolution was an attempt to replace the religion of Christianity with the Orthodoxy of Marxism - both equally required blind faith. THe biggest difference is that even Marx determined in his later years that his early work, "Das Kapital" had serious flaws - something the Communist orthodoxy deeply buried from the "masses". It was a source of power, and that's all that mattered.

Posted by Old Patriot 2004-2-23 12:37:43 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2004-2-23 12:37:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Kwame is right of course.
It was Kenneth Kaunda who banned the JWs. I was thinking about Nyerere in connection with the overthrow of Idi Amin and just had a brain fart on this post.
Incidentally, as Kwame probably knows but others may not, Frederick Chiluba was a hard-core Christian fundamentalist and officially declared Zambia to be a Christian nation in 1994.
He was in various kinds of trouble over it for the rest of his term as President, with international ~~meddlers~~ activists devoting all sorts of coverage to his sometimes off-the-wall rhetoric, occasional unpleasantness toward the opposition (he called a rival a "satanist" in print) and, horror of horrors, his relationship with the wicked Pat Robertson.
These do-gooders are even-handed though, they spared nearly (but not quite) as much attention for the various slave-traders, torturers, mass-murderers, and friends of Saddam Hussein in the Islamic countries of Africa.
Chiluba defied all known standards of PC after 9-11 when he declared that Zambia would ``stand with the United States to fight international terrorism for preservation of Christian values and democracy.''

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-2-23 2:30:01 PM|| 2004-2-23 2:30:01 PM|| Front Page Top

13:36 Anonymous4710
20:24 Annie Onymous
15:35 Daniel King
15:00 CrazyFool
08:36 Howard UK
23:56 PBMcL
23:49 Danny
23:40 Angie Schultz
23:33 GK
23:27 Danny
23:15 Danny
23:12 Pappy
23:11 Barbara Skolaut
23:10 Traveller
23:08 Barbara Skolaut
23:03 Barbara Skolaut
22:58 CrazyFool
22:54 JerseyMike
22:53 tu3031
22:52 CrazyFool
22:50 tu3031
22:50 Barbara Skolaut
22:45 phil_b
22:37 tu3031