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2004-02-26 
France Wants Transitional Gov’t in Haiti
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Posted by Steve White 2004-02-26 12:37:51 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Yes. Let's transition from anarchy to... more anarchy.
Posted by tu3031 2004-2-26 8:25:30 AM||   2004-2-26 8:25:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Who are the good guys again? ARE there any good guys?
Posted by Sparks 2004-2-26 10:42:02 AM||   2004-2-26 10:42:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 When will France give up this idea that they're somehow relevant in the world today, instead of being a burr under everybody's saddle?
Posted by Old Patriot  2004-2-26 10:55:15 AM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2004-2-26 10:55:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I certainly hope that the French aren't thinking of moving unilaterally on this...
Posted by eLarson 2004-2-26 10:59:33 AM||   2004-2-26 10:59:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I say we help them, but only if they switch to English as the official language.
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2004-2-26 11:13:45 AM||   2004-2-26 11:13:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#6  Hey O P, the whole Penis Envy relevance thing with France stems back from their lack of doing anything of importance over the last 3 centuries or so. Lets have a brief lesson of their war history.

FRENCH WAR HISTORY 101

Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.

Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when NOT led by a Frenchman."

Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.

Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots

Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.

The Dutch War - Tied.

War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War. Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.

American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome," and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare: "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."

French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.

The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunken Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

World War I - Tied on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein."

World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.

War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness; take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu

Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkish Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare: "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.

War on Terrorism - France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's.


"Nuf said.
Posted by Bodyguard 2004-2-26 11:43:21 AM||   2004-2-26 11:43:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Sparks, in Haiti, a good rule of thumb is that anybody actively involved on either side is NOT a good guy.
Posted by Carl in N.H 2004-2-26 11:57:58 AM||   2004-2-26 11:57:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 From what I understand, all the "good" Hatians run 7-11s and video rentals in New York City.
Posted by Old Patriot  2004-2-26 12:51:21 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2004-2-26 12:51:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Bodyguard,

Given the topic of the post I am surprised you did not include the Hatian War of Independence which the French also lost.
Posted by Mr. Davis  2004-2-26 5:18:20 PM||   2004-2-26 5:18:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 France no longer supports President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, an elected but highly unpopular president whose government is threatened by a rebellion. "As for President Aristide, he bears heavy responsibility for the current situation," de Villepin said in a statement. "It is up to him to accept the consequences while respecting the rule of law. Everyone sees quite well that a new page must be opened in Haiti’s history."

I guess "elected" just wasn't good enough in J-B's case. He must not've gotten 100% of the vote like ol' Sammy did.

Frogs. There goes the neighborhood...
Posted by mojo 2004-2-26 5:57:49 PM||   2004-2-26 5:57:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Bodyguard, I think you missed the Seven Years War, where the French lost Nova Scotia and Quebec to the British, and all the Cajuns (Acadians) shipped into Louisiana.

er, so was that actually a loss or a win?
Posted by john  2004-2-26 7:25:33 PM||   2004-2-26 7:25:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 ....de Villepin on Wednesday issued a statement calling for an "immediate" establishment of a transitional government in Haiti and an international civilian force to back it up.
That's fine, France can do this unilaterally with no objections from here. You can even use your vaunted military force.(BTW do you have any way to get them across the Atlantic?) No need for international civilians. Go ahead de Villepin; France isn't doing anything anywhere that counts.
Posted by GK 2004-2-26 8:44:53 PM||   2004-2-26 8:44:53 PM|| Front Page Top

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