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2004-03-26 Britain

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Posted by Paul Moloney 2004-03-26 12:10:41 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Abu Qataba is a Palestine muslim cleric who has also been linked to 911. More here

Posted by phil_b 2004-03-26 12:48:11 AM|| 2004-03-26 12:48:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 And, if you recall, the UK has been ADVERTISING to recruit Agents. Prolly with a strong preference for native Arabic speakers, too, ya think? I dunno about you, but this episode certainly doesn't inspire confidence.

So does "M" stand for Mahmoud, now? Get a grip, guys - THEY CAN'T BE TRUSTED - ESPECIALLY IF INDOCTRINATED FROM BIRTH.

In the unguarded or rare moment of honesty you hear the hardcore fact: they are Muslims First and Always. It's in the programming.

Get it?

Posted by .com 2004-03-26 1:00:46 AM|| 2004-03-26 1:00:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I think that the UK is slowly beginning to overcome its naivety in this regard. There are a hell of a lot of them over here and the unjugged ones are currently having the time of their lives - Abu Hamza, you'll get yours one day, sunshine.

Posted by Howard UK 2004-03-26 4:25:29 AM|| 2004-03-26 4:25:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Informants work well enough for the Israelis. You've just got to keep a close eye on them, and acknowledge that an informant, particularly a big fish, who seems too good to be true, probably is.

Posted by Bulldog 2004-03-26 9:09:06 AM|| 2004-03-26 9:09:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 dot com - this was a man who was high up in the jihadi movement in Britain, and was recruited PRECISELY because of his high level role - using him was clearly a high risk operation. Using an off the street muslim, of average piety, is clearly not in the same category. Like the difference between recruiting a local commisar as an agent, and trying to turn a Politburo member.

OF course the people you recruit as agents (distinct from operatives) arent trustworthy - hell if they were they wouldnt be agents, right? But you got to watch them.

Muslims first and always? Like Kemal and his followers in Turkey? Like the troops who have just died fighting Jihadis in South Wazirstan? Like the Zalmay Khalilzad?

Bulldogs point is well taken - the Israelis have made excellent use of informants, who are ALSO muslims. But they seem to run them more intelligently than MI5 ran Qatada. The difference isnt a war of civs thing, its a smart intell thing, I think.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-03-26 10:05:02 AM|| 2004-03-26 10:05:02 AM|| Front Page Top

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