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2004-04-01 Caribbean-Latin America

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Posted by Steve 2004-04-01 11:35:40 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Maybe the "fast track" approach to this closing will help drive home the point that actions have consequences.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-04-01 11:49:10 AM|| 2004-04-01 11:49:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 ..And the best part is that it will take DECADES to sweep the Vieques range for UXOs, and even then safety will be questionable at best.
Congratualtions, folks - you now have high unemployment, dozens of buildings you can't afford to keep up, and a huge loss to your economy. Maybe the Reverends Jackson and Sharpton will pick up the slack...?

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-04-01 11:59:23 AM|| 2004-04-01 11:59:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Good, they (the P.R.) wanted to close Vieques (dumb move) and keep Rosey open so that the local economy wouldn't be affected. Glad we did both overall.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-04-01 12:02:22 PM|| 2004-04-01 12:02:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Cause --> Effect

Do you think they will 'get it'?

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-04-01 12:03:10 PM|| 2004-04-01 12:03:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Point 1: There is no US congressman to tick off, thus expediting the exit strategy.

Point 2: Love'em or loath'em, you do not cross this administration and expect to get off scot-free.

Posted by Hiryu 2004-04-01 12:20:33 PM|| 2004-04-01 12:20:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Actually - a doubly good screwing-over: the closing of Vieques was accompanied by establishing a wild-life refuge, so the a-holes that thought they'd be able to capitalize by creating hotels and tourist destinations there are doubly F*&ked

Posted by Frank G 2004-04-01 12:22:14 PM|| 2004-04-01 12:22:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 To the people of Vieques... Don't wish too hard for what you want. You may just get it!

Posted by Jack Deth 2004-04-01 12:50:37 PM|| 2004-04-01 12:50:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Hiryu - Point 1 - an excellent observation!

Frank - Does this remind you of Subic - only the greedy Puerto Ricans behind this ploy won't get the opportunity to make a buck? LOL!

Posted by .com 2004-04-01 1:57:55 PM|| 2004-04-01 1:57:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Frank G., outstanding - hadn't heard the wild life refuge bit! I remember we had to watch where we landed when we went there because of the endangered turtles. I also remember being amused at them telling us they were going to build resorts when we left, I asked "but what about the turtles? - can't just have thousands of ugly Americano tourists bothering their nesting sites.... now everyone wins ;)

Jack, actually the mainland politicians there really wanted us gone more so then the local Viequans who made some cash off are being there. The governor of PR at the time had a real hard on to get rid of us so she (it was in 2000 & I think it was a she) could get kick backs from the tourist community - total f*cking sham on their part citing environmental/health issues - we all knew the real deal.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-04-01 2:16:37 PM|| 2004-04-01 2:16:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 You mean that military bases are for training? I thought there were just there to give money to the locals.

Posted by Jackal 2004-04-01 4:02:02 PM|| [http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2004-04-01 4:02:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Yes, YES, YES!!!!!

Now, one more thing left to do - revoke their commonwealth status, and cast them adrift.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-04-01 4:53:18 PM|| 2004-04-01 4:53:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 "revoke their commonwealth status, and cast them adrift"

butbut but...who will protect the TURtles ?

< /whine>

Posted by Carl in N.H 2004-04-01 6:18:45 PM|| 2004-04-01 6:18:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Carl,

I think (hope!) Kerry will be looking for a job after November......

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-04-01 6:23:40 PM|| 2004-04-01 6:23:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 who will protect the TURtles ?

Er, Dana Carvey? ("Turtle turtle", from "Master of Disguise")

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-04-01 6:30:45 PM|| 2004-04-01 6:30:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#15

already dropping property values and flooding the surplus housing market

Bwhahahahahahahah.

It really depended on how quickly the mission could be shut down.

The mission was bomb practice. No bombing, no mission. Quick.

Cause, meet effect.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-04-01 6:33:54 PM|| 2004-04-01 6:33:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 You people are mean. Think about the chiiildren!

Posted by Tibor 2004-04-01 9:41:24 PM|| 2004-04-01 9:41:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 If I remember correctly, you had to be careful on the hike up to the BOQ at night because large indigenous crabs scurried across the roads after sundown. - Its possible that the Hose had one too many Red Stripes that night as the memory seems kind of hazy.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-04-01 10:04:16 PM|| 2004-04-01 10:04:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Does this remind you of Subic - only the greedy Puerto Ricans behind this ploy won't get the opportunity to make a buck? LOL!

Subic's closing was a learning experience, both good and bad (I had peripheral doings with it). Rosy was the result of lessons-learned. It's gonna be a long time before the "nature preserve" goes away.

I suspect that the developers in Orange County CA (who've been lusting after Camp Pendelton for years) might find themselves at same short end of the stick.

Posted by Pappy 2004-04-01 11:24:56 PM|| 2004-04-01 11:24:56 PM|| Front Page Top

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