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2004-04-04 Home Front: Politix

Soros: Our "war" on terror breeds terrorists, and a vicious cycle of violence

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Posted by Frank G 2004-04-04 2:55:21 PM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 So George wants to continue the failed policies of Clinton and Clarke...

How many have those failed 'policies' killed again?

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-04-04 3:20:56 PM|| 2004-04-04 3:20:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 "Imagine for a moment that Sept. 11 had been treated as a crime against humanity. We would have pursued Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan (hopefully with more success),..."

Is there, uh, some reason you believe you would have had more success?? This is precisely the policy Bill Clinton followed for eight years, and the biggest indications of its "success" were the 9/11 attacks themselves.

",...but we would not have invaded Iraq."

And would have forfeited a major strategic advantage in carrying the WoT forward. It isn't too hard, George, to figure out a myriad of ways in which invading Iraq helps our position; I can list at least 35 of them. Is there some reason you can't think of even one?

"But to protect ourselves against terrorism, we need precautionary measures, awareness and intelligence gathering â all of which ultimately depend on the support of the populations among which terrorists operate. Declaring war on the very people we need to enlist against terrorism is a huge mistake."

Oooooh, I see: let's not make the jihadis angry at us. Well guess what, George: they're already hopping mad at America, and have been--by their own declaration--at war with us for at least the last third of a century. And getting tough with troublesome regimes and demanding their cooperation, instead of begging for it, isn't going to make them angrier. As the French say, it is pour encourager les autres. Quaddafi sure seems to have gotten the message.

"On Sept. 11, the United States was the victim of a heinous crime, and the whole world expressed spontaneous and genuine sympathy."

That wasn't sympathy, Georgie: it was something called schadenfreude. It means that they were happy to see us down on our knees and gasping for air after having been dealt a surprise kick in the balls by dirty little ragheads. Once we started fighting back, it wasn't fun anymore. We will never get genuine sympathy from the rest of the world, George; you may as well grow up and get used to that fact.

"The war on terrorism as pursued by the Bush administration is more likely to bring about a permanent state of war than an end to terrorism."

No state of war is permanent, unless you are too afraid to fight it to a conclusion. It is utterly, entirely, a matter of will. Bush has that will. Your kind do not.

"The important thing to remember about terrorism is that it is a reflexive phenomenon."

I'm sure you find some sort of psychological comfort in the notion that we "cause" Islamic terrorism, George, but that's just a childish delusion. I, like every other American, have done my duty by asking myself, "Why do they hate us so much?" And the answer is, they hate us because they are fucked-up savages caught in the grip of a stone-age death cult. Kind of like those loonies in the "Democratic wing of the Democratic Party."

"Its impact and development depend on the actions and reactions of the victims."

That's right: if we kill enough of them, they'll lose interest in killing us. And then this war will stop. That's not too hard to understand, is it?

"Our nation must concern itself with the well-being of the world. The United States is the only country that can take the lead in addressing problems that require collective action: preserving peace, assuring economic progress, protecting the environment and so on."

That's what we're doing, George; that's what America always does--instead of just talking about doing those things--when you people are kept away from the reins of power.

"By using the war on terror as a pretext for asserting our military supremacy, we are embarking on an escalating spiral of terrorist/ counterterrorist violence."

Oh, quit that damned neurotic hand-wringing. You're disgusting. There isn't going to be any "spiral of violence", because we're going to kill all the little bastards.

"If instead we were to set an example of cooperative behavior, we could not only alleviate poverty, misery and injustice in the world, but also gain support for defending ourselves against terrorism."

All we gain by pretending the world is Sesame Street is what we gained throughout the eight years of Bill Clinton's presidency: the utter contempt of the entire world.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-04-04 3:36:21 PM|| 2004-04-04 3:36:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm always amazed when someone who is otherwise obviously intelligent, in Soros' case playing money markets and casually destroying the economies of 2 or 3 small countries before he's even had breakfast, can be so fucking clueless about Islam. And politics. And people. And life.

I'm feeling generous this morning so I'll suggest that old George isn't a total moronic asshole - he's merely an economic idiot savant.

Posted by .com 2004-04-04 3:40:57 PM|| 2004-04-04 3:40:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Oops - I overlapped with you Dave... and after reading your eloquest fisk post, I take it back:
Soros IS a total moronic asshole... who also happens to be an economic idiot savant. ;->

Posted by .com 2004-04-04 3:46:26 PM|| 2004-04-04 3:46:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Well of course it could be that he's not stupid, just crooked...

Posted by Dave D. 2004-04-04 4:21:44 PM|| 2004-04-04 4:21:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Or crooked and stupid, Dave D.

I'll tell you what, Georgy-Porgy - Let's drop you down in Gaza and make sure they know you're a Jew, and see if you change your mind in the few seconds you remain alive.

Wotta maroon.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-04-04 4:57:20 PM|| 2004-04-04 4:57:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 That'd be righteous, Barbara!

Posted by .com 2004-04-04 5:01:47 PM|| 2004-04-04 5:01:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 The thing that bothers me about this guy is the way is he is trying to "buy" this election through his 527 agencies et al. His sponsoring of anti-war and active left activivties do nothing for his cause among most Americans. Eventually more will be heard of this guy. Just don't count on any real investigative reporting from the liberal press. Where oh where are you Edward R Murrow.

Posted by Bill Nelson 2004-04-04 5:03:53 PM|| 2004-04-04 5:03:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Soros: Our "war" on terror breeds terrorists, and a vicious cycle of violence

Yeah, right. Just like sex education increases teen pregnancy rates and driver's ed classes cause more automobile accidents.

The one guaranteed way to breed more terrorists is not killing them quickly enough.

Posted by Zenster 2004-04-04 6:31:42 PM|| 2004-04-04 6:31:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 George could give up, say 6 billion to make the world better, but he won't.

Another who talks a good game.

As GOC says, "Write a check!"

What George fails to realize is that terrorists are a finite bunch, 9 months to breed and at least 5 years to indoctrinate.

Which St. Corrie helped.

Posted by Anonymous2U 2004-04-04 7:40:38 PM|| 2004-04-04 7:40:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Soros' currency speculation precipitated a general collapse of Asian currencies in 97, a crime against humanity that caused untold suffering in Thailand, Malaysa, Korea, Indonesia, et. al. I think that he should be tried in Jakarta for his perfidy.

Posted by RWV 2004-04-04 8:50:59 PM|| 2004-04-04 8:50:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 RWV - Lol! Not Brussels? Lol! Excellent observation!

Posted by .com 2004-04-04 8:53:09 PM|| 2004-04-04 8:53:09 PM|| Front Page Top

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