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2004-05-10 China-Japan-Koreas

China Admits AIDS Epidemic Requires Urgent Measures

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Posted by Zenster 2004-05-10 2:52:37 AM|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The only question... Will they blame this on the US, or on the Joos?

Posted by someone 2004-05-10 3:09:12 AM|| 2004-05-10 3:09:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Peshawar!

Posted by Phil B 2004-05-10 5:57:06 AM|| 2004-05-10 5:57:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I'd disagree, Phil B - internal pressures: AIDS, SARS, are exactly the kind of thing that could seriously change the Chinese Hegemon via popular uprising

Posted by Frank G 2004-05-10 9:30:57 AM|| 2004-05-10 9:30:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I tend to agree with Frank G. The whole issue of Chinese govt deception, admission of error, and political consequences, while on the surface an internal Chinese issue, is ultimately of importance to the global strategic balance, if not directly to the WOT. I guess I see things from an American point of view, where the domestic politics of any country OTHER than the US is "international affairs" While I see the limits of this point of view, id still say that Chinese domestic politics is on topic in way that Canadian or British domestic politics are not.

Which is not to say that I agree with all the comments above.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-05-10 9:40:56 AM|| 2004-05-10 9:40:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 actually Im thinking of softening on the whole Peshawar thing, anyway. Two reasons.

1. The way this site is now set up makes it easier to avoid the Peshawar posts and comments.
2. The overtly domestic politics posts act as a sort of flypaper, distracting the domestic politics trolls from the more serious threads.

From now on I intend to only "Peshawar" a comment when its overtly about domestic politics AND is in the wrong place.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-05-10 9:45:05 AM|| 2004-05-10 9:45:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Zenster: Also, Durex condoms at the local Ito Yokado, a Japanese department store, sell for 30RMB for a package of 12 condoms.

These are close to US prices (4 bucks in China vs 6-7 bucks for Trojans in the NYC area) and 1.5 days' wages for the average Chinese worker in the booming coastal areas. (In the interior, that would be 3-4 days' wages - for a pack of condoms. Of course, in the interior, the high price of Japanese condoms would be a moot point, given that the Japanese department store that carries them wouldn't have a store out there, anyways).

Posted by Zhang Fei 2004-05-10 10:11:10 AM|| 2004-05-10 10:11:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I Peshawared this because its Zipster's rambling semicoherent opinions. It also displays his real agenda when he uses terms like 'fair trade'. I also found it racist. China is a developing country and you will find similar stories in any country at the same level of development. Disclaimer - I am a militant anti-communist and nothing would make me happier than the Chinese communist party being dumped, but AIDS aint going to cause it.

Posted by Phil B 2004-05-10 10:29:24 AM|| 2004-05-10 10:29:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 I actually agree with this post, but you can forget about the Wall Street Journal ever valuing rights over profit; they practically slobber over it ...

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"So long as China continues to spend billions on building space rockets and missiles to point at Taiwan instead properly addressing this self-created plague, they should not qualify for one penny of foreign aid.

China continues to rape the globeâs economic markets with theft of intellectual property and product counterfeiting. The fake formula scandal that has killed hundreds of infants is a perfect example of how Chinaâs economic progress is paid for in human blood, both their own and of those abroad."

Damn straight. I've long suspected "the northerners back home" were obsessed with their "lost face and territories" and lacked the sense to move on the way we southerners have, but ...[/regionalist cracks]

Posted by Edward Yee 2004-05-10 12:45:14 PM|| [http://edwardyee.fanworks.net] 2004-05-10 12:45:14 PM|| Front Page Top

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