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2004-05-14 Iraq-Jordan

US Military Policeman Describe Abuse of Prisoners

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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-05-14 8:11:16 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 If true, and there is no reason to doubt it, this Graner guy is one f*cked up dude. The difference between us and them, that the lefties and arabs don't understand, is that those guilty WILL BE PUNISHED! Whereas if it was mooslims doing this to Americans, they would be celebrated as heroes. See the difference? One thing that gives me hope is, from most polls, the Iraqi's trust us to deal with the problem appropriately. Fuck the euro's and the rest of the world. Those people have absolutely NO RIGHT to judge us. Punish the guilty, then let's get back to work fixing Iraq.

Posted by AllahHateMe 2004-05-14 9:23:10 AM|| 2004-05-14 9:23:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Specialist Sivits was asked if the abuse would have happened if someone in the chain of command was present. "Hell no," he replied, adding: "Because our command would have slammed us. They believe in doing the right thing. If they saw what was going on, there would be hell to pay."

Well, there goes all the left's conspiracy theories about the officers being involved. Not that they'll believe any of it, of course, because they never let go of their lies.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-05-14 9:32:31 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-05-14 9:32:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Whether the officers were involved or not, they had the duty to know what was going on. Officers (and senior NCOs) need to supervise their commands.

Posted by Spot 2004-05-14 10:03:30 AM|| 2004-05-14 10:03:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Looks like there was no on-site supervision. I'll bet everybody was smartly dressed and the floors were polished when the higher ups came calling. Sivits is reported to be going to plead guilty, I'll wager others will follow as well. This is why they are starting the court martials at the bottom and working up.

Posted by Steve 2004-05-14 10:23:37 AM|| 2004-05-14 10:23:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Hey, uh, whatever happened to "Don't ask, don't tell?"

Posted by eLarson 2004-05-14 10:28:46 AM|| 2004-05-14 10:28:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]

Posted by Antiwar TROLL 2004-05-14 11:45:05 AM|| 2004-05-14 11:45:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 whatEVER

Posted by Shipman 2004-05-14 11:58:22 AM|| 2004-05-14 11:58:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Antiwar, you're such a Useful Idiot, believing everything the NYSlimes throws your way.
You know what makes me FURIOUS? The beheading of American JEWISH civilian Nick Berg.
These prison abuses are nothing in wartime.
Nothing.
You just hate America and Americans and are looking for an excuse to do so.

Posted by Jen 2004-05-14 12:00:05 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-05-14 12:00:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The prison torture makes me FURIOUS

And feeding people into shreders, cutting off ears and tongues, raping daughters and wifes in front of husbands and brothers, gasing people, etc. etc. doesn't?

Antithought you are moron! Not to mention devoid of morality and rational thought.

Posted by Phil_B 2004-05-14 12:04:37 PM|| 2004-05-14 12:04:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 don't feed the trolls!

Posted by Frank G 2004-05-14 12:15:15 PM|| 2004-05-14 12:15:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]

Posted by Antiwar TROLL 2004-05-14 12:28:39 PM|| 2004-05-14 12:28:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Take a number. The line's over there.

Posted by tu3031 2004-05-14 12:30:21 PM|| 2004-05-14 12:30:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 FOAD, Antiwar.
Berg knew what he was doing and was even offered a plane ride out of there.
Those soldiers, who were out of line BTW and are being disciplined and punished, never physically harmed those Iraqi prisoners.
And if we hadn't liberated Iraq, under President Bush, Iraqis who had done *nothing* would be murdered, hideously and truly torutured, fed into shredders, raped and buried in a mass grave.
And why? Some for nothing more criminal than saying they didn't like the tie Saddam was wearing.

Posted by Jen 2004-05-14 12:31:56 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-05-14 12:31:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Jen, et al -

Antiwar is a member of the BUT party, formerly known as DEM.

Those are the people who subscribe to this:
The execution of Berg was horrible, BUT we have to downplay it, and keep harping on the Baghdad prison abuse scandal, with the help of our willing stooges in the media, so we can get John Kerry elected.

Posted by BigEd 2004-05-14 12:36:24 PM|| 2004-05-14 12:36:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Spot -- absolutely. That's why the officers all the way up to bridage command have received GOMORs. Their careers are dead; they'll never get another promotion and if they stay in the reserves, they'll get crap assignments forever.

The only reason they aren't facing courts martial is there's no evidence they're guilty of anything but negligence.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-05-14 1:15:32 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-05-14 1:15:32 PM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Antiwar 2004-05-14 11:45:05 AM|| 2004-05-14 11:45:05 AM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Antiwar 2004-05-14 12:28:39 PM|| 2004-05-14 12:28:39 PM|| Front Page Top

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