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2004-05-14 Iraq-Jordan

Danish medics: We saw Iraqi victims of UK troopsâ prisoner abuse

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Posted by Bulldog 2004-05-14 4:51:25 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 This comes out conviently after the photo's of Brtish soldiers abusing Iraqi's are proven to be fake. Keep trying to live the myth, Gade.

Posted by Charles 2004-05-14 8:16:17 AM|| 2004-05-14 8:16:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Denial.

Do you think that one incident of fake photos in one incident means that every accusation is fake? Do you think that every abuse needs to have been photographed to be real?

And the moronic talk about the "convenient" timing reminds me of the equally moronic conspiracism of some of the Arab press about the timing of the Nicholas Berg video.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-05-14 9:14:54 AM|| 2004-05-14 9:14:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Do you think that every abuse needs to have been photographed to be real?

No, but solid evidence would be nice. You know, names, dates, units, etc. Right now all we have is a vague accusation.

Let the RMP investigate; they'll do what needs to be done.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-05-14 9:24:17 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-05-14 9:24:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Denial.

Hardly. The saying goes "Timing is everything". The fact that these medics came out now is way too convenient. The burden of proof is on them, not the soldiers.

I'd also like to know why they waited so long, exactly where they were stationed, and what their affiliations to political groups are. Could they be telling the truth, yes. However, pointing the finger then hiding doesn't even come close to credible.

More importantly, how did they know the name of the "victim"? How do they know it was a Illegal interrogation when they were at the field hospital? Do you think the soldiers came out and said " Hey, we need this man, Baha Mousa, looked at before he dies. We beat the shit out of him during interrogation without telling our commanders. Oh, and could you not tell anybody what I just said? "

As for the Berg video, there was never a doubt that was real. The evidence was upfront, the people who killed him were upfront, and the body which was left near US HQ in Bagdad, along with the HEAD, was upfront. There in no "convenient time" for savages, but there is for well-educated European medics.

Posted by Charles 2004-05-14 1:51:19 PM|| 2004-05-14 1:51:19 PM|| Front Page Top

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