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2004-06-02 Home Front: Culture Wars

Guess What? Same Judge OKâd Muslim Prayer in Schools

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Posted by .com 2004-06-02 1:29:18 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Oops - should be on Page 2 - Apologies...

Posted by .com 2004-06-02 1:31:55 AM|| 2004-06-02 1:31:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Judges, is there nothing they don't know? A well read jurist, one who thinks deeply, great thoughts, relitivism. Oh my!

Smells like cheese, old toenail cheese.

Posted by Lucky 2004-06-02 1:42:57 AM|| 2004-06-02 1:42:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Activist judges are anarchists. They subvert our laws and they should be summarily removed from the bench-3 strikes and you're out.

What if a President said "No" to the Supreme Court and refused to implement their judgement as a result of "no confidence?" What exactly could Ginsburg and her left wing alcolytes do to the President? What empowers the bench but the willingness of the Chief Executive to implement judicial decisions? If the President told Hamilton, for example, to "blow it out her ear" he'd win the November election by a landslide.

I think voters are sick and tired of non-elected officials reversing the will of the people. Voters are desperate for some courage and leadership to emminate from elected representatives to challenge these self-serving Svengalis in black robes.

Posted by rex 2004-06-02 2:47:04 AM|| 2004-06-02 2:47:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Can we get this same judge to get the kids to say the Our Father, the Creed and give up something for Lent? Oh - and have them make the sign of the cross, etc.

Oh - doesnt work for Catholicism I bet...

I wonder what happens to the student who refuses on religious grounds (Catholic, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, etc) to participate in their little Islamist force-feeding?

How in the heck did a moron like that get to the bench at such a level?

Posted by OldSpook 2004-06-02 3:47:29 AM|| 2004-06-02 3:47:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 liberals have really gone off the deep end. What possible logic can be applied here? You outlaw Christian prayer....and embrace the religion of your enemies??? That may be the only exposure to religion some of those kids will have. What a tragedy if any of them take it(islam), as their own religion.

Imagine, a teacher teaching Christian prayer, The Ten Commandments, The Gospel to her students,...... and have them recite; "Jesus is the son of the one true Creator God. He died for the sins of man...that man may be redeemed, by his innocent blood."

Students must "become Christians" to complete the class. They go through being saved and being baptized.........

Or, as the students leave the classroom, they must say a prayer. "Heavenly Father, forgive us of our sins. Please bless and protect us as we go about our day. In the name of Jesus I pray, Amen".

What kind of hell would be unleashed upon the teacher, the school, the principal? "HOW DARE SHE TEACH THE BIBLE IN SCHOOL!" The teacher would be publicly shamed, and then publicly fired. Quite possibly to be prosecuted for child endangerment.

Posted by Halfass Pete 2004-06-02 3:47:45 AM|| 2004-06-02 3:47:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I believe this judge's ruling is obsurd, this should have only leeched thru the court if the teacher was exampling all religions of faith and even then it should have been up to the students if he or she wished to participate in this religious familurization.
I wonder what kind of ruling this judge would have if the children were told to create clay tablets and inscribe the TEN COMMANDMENTS?
WAKE UP AMERICA!

Posted by Goober 2004-06-02 4:07:57 AM|| 2004-06-02 4:07:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 ACLU,where are you?

Posted by Rator 2004-06-02 8:18:32 AM|| 2004-06-02 8:18:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Rator: This doesn't qualify as an ACLU issue because it wrecks the United States as a Christian nation.

Posted by badanov 2004-06-02 8:55:07 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-06-02 8:55:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 These are the same people worried about GOD in the pledge, but they think nothing of butchering babies and elevating these barbarians above the rest of us.

Posted by Douglas De Bono 2004-06-02 9:05:16 AM|| [http://www.douglasdebono.com] 2004-06-02 9:05:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I guess the right to choose [cited in her ruling on partial birth murder...] does not extend to religion for this asshat judge.

And since the students 'became muslims' and then leave it is it permitted for other muslims to kill them for leaving Islam too?

I think this Judge would say yes.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-06-02 10:01:01 AM|| 2004-06-02 10:01:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 What possible logic can be applied here? You outlaw Christian prayer....and embrace the religion of your enemies???

It makes perfect sense once you realize the left is on the side of our enemies.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-06-02 10:33:55 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-06-02 10:33:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 I would sure like to see President Bush stand up and make a public declaration of outrage at this ruling (fatwa?) by Judge Hamilton. It is courage and leadership that will win Bush the reelection, not pollsters and political hack advice. After the sodomy ruling by the Supremes, I have some real apprehension as to what the High Court will do. There is something on the east coast that is a similar ruling that went the other way heading for the Supremes.

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is in effect becoming a ruler of the land by judicial ruling. They, in effect will be able to veto anything in this land by their whims. The founders of the Constitution did not envision these actions by Judge Hamilton as part of the checks and balances process.

If the country does not get a handle on this, we will rot out from the inside just like Rome did.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-06-02 11:31:29 AM|| 2004-06-02 11:31:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 WHAT THE F%@#!
this has gone way too far..if this was my child i would be at that scholl office, shool board quicker than shit flowing through a goose! this is really a disgrace - liberals are attacking christian symbols all over the place (the aclu just forced the Los Angeles city council to remove a cross from the city seal) but islam is ok!
WHAT THE F%@#!
every goddam liberal needs to be kicked out of office.

the problem is that republicans/conser do not get active so there is the impression that the majority is liberal.

WHAT THE F%@#!

this really boils my blood!

Posted by Dan 2004-06-02 11:38:03 AM|| 2004-06-02 11:38:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 This is just one more reason to vote for Bush: electing Kerry would get you even more of this.

Posted by Tom 2004-06-02 12:17:03 PM|| 2004-06-02 12:17:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 It's worse than that. This crap is actually REQUIRED of ALL California 7th graders. Great emphasis is put on participation. Those held out are stigmatized and of course their grades suffer. My daughter begins 6th grade next year. I'm still deciding on how best to approach this. A lot of parents are pissed. The culture war continues to drift to open civil strife as the left gets more insane. Example...a gallery owner in SF displays a series of paintings all based on Abu Ghraib - of course all showing how bestial our soldiers are. This went too far even for the SF folk. Someone went to the gallery just before opening, politely knocked on the door and then clocked the owner big time when she answered. Big fat black eye and a nice big scar down the nose. She closed the exhibit that day. Just an observation of where we're headed as the left becomes more extreme.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2004-06-02 12:23:27 PM|| 2004-06-02 12:23:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 I don't think this San Francisco teacher did it right. As an early childhood educator, I can say that, without a doubt, she totally blew her chance to really educate the children about other cultures.

To make her lessons a "genuine" cultural experience, she should have had all the girls put on burkas, and handed out AK-47's and RPG's to the boys. A local mullah should have been called in to provide ~~terrorist~~ "freedom fighter" instruction to the boys--weapons handling, bomb-making, suicide belts. Little Persian carpets should take the place of desks and tables--and no need for pencils, or paints, or muscial instruments.

To help the class truly understand Islam, she should have helped them better understand Islamic culture by by playing "Moslem Countries Around the World."

The first should have been "Afghanistan." In "Afghanistan" the girls would not be allowed to participate, and would have to sit in the back. In order to truly understand how Taliban behave, the boys could watch the film "Osama." When the film was over, they could destroy the film and the video equipment, as well as all the room decorations and all the books in the classroom--except for the Koran. After that, she could divide the boys into two groups (the "Taliban" and the "Afghan militia"), and have them practice fighting each other--but first she'd have to identify the Taliban group as the "good guys." Batons and acid also could be provided to the boys in case the girls in the back started "acting up." A little jail should have been constructed for the girls by the boys too--a developmentally appropriate "hands-on" learning experience for all the children! Ethnic snacks should have been served. For the boys. Then, some of the more uppity girls could participate just a bit (after all, this is America) by acting out the widespread despair of Afghani women. They could burn themselves alive, or commit suicide some other way.

After that, the class could go on to learn about another Moslem country like "Sudan" (the sodomy and rape units could make that learning experience particularly realistic--I'm sure some local Moslems would agree to help "teach" the units), or "Syria" (all the children could play "Who's got the WMD?"--a hide and seek game).

No worries about the ACLU. (crickets chirping . . . )This, after all, is a pluralistic "cultural experience" based on the collective will of "the people."

But what about the Federal GUIDELINES FOR RELIGIOUS EXPRESSION IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS ? " . . . schools may not endorse religious activity or doctrine, nor may they coerce participation in religious activity. Among other things, of course, school administrators and teachers may not organize or encourage prayer exercises in the classroom. . . . And the right of religious expression in school does not include the right to have a "captive audience" listen, or to compel other students to participate." (and this was even under the Clinton administration! )

But who cares? ! Things have changed. And we have Judge Phyllis Hamilton to thank.

New motto for American public school children: "I prayed and got the grade!"

Or, how about a new "culturally sensitive" jumprope chant:
"There is only one great god--mohammed is his prophet.
We will fight around the world, and preach Islam and talk it.
When the imam says to spin, we will have to listen.
Be sure to wear a big black hood so you don't go to prison!
(hot peppers)
Pillars! 1--2--3--4--5!"

And you people at Rantburg thought the WOT was a war between Islam and Truth. Sillies. It's about oil! It's about the intolerance of American Christian Imperialism! Bush lied and people died! When are we going to get it right?

And while we're at it, who says Judge Hamilton is wrong to strike down the President's ban on late term abortion procedures? Who's to say that abortion doctors are out of touch with reality? How narrow! And the nurses who assist? What do they know?! You certainly can't believe them--no doubt they are "plants" by the Evil Administrator himself. And his cohorts and accomplices here and everywhere . Come to think of it, I don't think I like his little dog either (cackle)--besides, dogs are against the rules of Islam.

This is just a laugh: " Brenda Pratt Shafer , a registered nurse with thirteen years or experience, was assigned by her nursing agency to an abortion clinic. Since Nurse Shafer considered herself "very pro-choice," she didnât think this assignment would be a problem. She was wrong. This is what Nurse Shafer saw: " I stood at the doctorâs side and watched him perform a partial-birth abortion on a woman who was six months pregnant. The babyâs heartbeat was clearly visible on the ultrasound screen. The doctor delivered the babyâs body and arms, everything but his little head. The babyâs body was moving. His little fingers were clasping together. He was kicking his feet. The doctor took a pair of scissors and inserted them into the back of the babyâs head, and the babyâs arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall. Then the doctor opened the scissors up. Then he stuck the high-powered suction tube into the hole and sucked the babyâs brains out. Now the baby was completely limp. I never went back to the clinic. But I am still haunted by the face of that little boy. It was the most perfect, angelic face I have ever seen." Old news. Yawn.

I don't know about anybody else, but as for me, I've heard enough. I'm voting for Kerry, putting on my burka, and running out to get my partial birth abortion right away!

Rant concluded.

Fred: sorry for the bandwidth munch--but thanks a million for providing the space . . . my blood pressure is ever so much better :-) !

Posted by ex-lib 2004-06-02 2:54:08 PM|| 2004-06-02 2:54:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Holy Shait ex-lib! What a great rant! I am in AWE!

Fred this has *got* to go in the classics...

I just made up my mind. No matter what my kid (now 6 month old :) is going to private school!

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-06-02 5:11:20 PM|| 2004-06-02 5:11:20 PM|| Front Page Top

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