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2004-06-05 Home Front: Culture Wars
What’s Right With Islam: A New Vision for Mulsims and the West
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-06-05 3:33:49 AM|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 If Islam wants to "reform" itself, fine - it's their internal matter as long as it does not involve non-Muslims. Of course, it is the ultimate understatement to note that the conduct of Islam today does, indeed, involve non-Mulsims - mainly as innocent victims of their hatred and attempts to spred Islamic dominion.

I'm afraid Mr Lee is a sucker or apologist, though. Rauf tosses in this classic bit of Muslim Bullshit:
"...he believes that "eliminating suicide bombing will require that we address its underlying causes," which means re-evaluating U.S. foreign policy, especially regarding the Palestinians."

Game. Set. Match.

Fuck off Rauf - and take your "American Islam" with you.
Posted by .com 2004-06-05 3:45:54 AM||   2004-06-05 3:45:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Oops, I take it back about Lee - he gets it and clearly sees Rauf as another disingenuous Muslim apologist - sorry Mr Lee! My bad.
Posted by .com 2004-06-05 4:03:00 AM||   2004-06-05 4:03:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 "eliminating suicide bombing will require that we address its underlying causes," which means re-evaluating U.S. foreign policy, especially regarding the Palestinians." When anyone starts rabbiting on about "underlying causes" just direct them to this link.
The Market for Martyrs
Posted by tipper 2004-06-05 6:44:22 AM||   2004-06-05 6:44:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 remember its all about root causes and its all our own fault :(
Posted by Shep UK 2004-06-05 7:54:26 AM||   2004-06-05 7:54:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 "After all, Islam has had plenty of Martin Luthers, the next Muslim reformer needs to be a Martin Luther King."

No, what they need is a pope. One with lots of property, perhaps a country or two to run. A pope who can say, "Knock it off, the American's are coming for my Sistine Chapel!" First have a pope, then we can talk about a reformation.
Posted by Zpaz  2004-06-05 10:52:23 AM||   2004-06-05 10:52:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 How bout this one,
as an American I am great insulted by the way Arabs treat the West, until this "death to American shit" ends, I say let's
bomb Arabs until they talk nice about us.
How's that for an underlining cause . . . .
Talk nice or die
learn to be human or feel the pain
grow up or shut up
Posted by Anonymous5075  2004-06-05 11:22:39 AM||   2004-06-05 11:22:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 A5075 - Offer them "Cake or Death"? ;->
Posted by .com 2004-06-05 11:42:00 AM||   2004-06-05 11:42:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 There is that koran thing too. As long as that piece of fakeness is taught and "a hodgepodge of beliefs and practices that places great emphasis on mediators, or auliya’, who intercede with God on behalf of righteous petitioners. ...." then it's just a mind control, geopolitical threat to everbody. I say outlaw the koran. Bring that up at the UN and let the debate begin.

It's either submit or not!


Posted by Lucky 2004-06-05 12:06:53 PM||   2004-06-05 12:06:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 "eliminating suicide bombing will require that we address its underlying causes"

Yes, the underlying cause we need to prevent is the detonation of their explosives after they've left the confines of their mosque, barracks or bomb-factory (use as appropriate). Preignition seems to be solving a lot of the problems Israel is having with these two-legged vermin.

#5 "Knock it off, the American's are coming for my Sistine Chapel!"

Due to its origins in nomadic climes, Islam is by nature a decentralized religion. They will never have a primary figurehead like the Catholic pope. If only due to their internecine warfare, it will not happen.

However, this doesn't mean that they do not have a "Sistine Chapel." That they do indeed have in the form of Mecca and Medina. If and when we are obliged to appropriate the Saudi oil fields, a similar appropriation of these Islamic holy sites should be a top priority.

We have neither the time nor luxury of hoping for any sort of "reformation" coming from within Islam. Far too many of their adherents have adopted militant jihad and will not blanch at using the most horrific weapons imaginable.

This we must counter with the horrific notion (for them) that not a single Muslim on the face of this earth will ever again be allowed into their precious shrines until they purge their ranks of these barbaric psychotics.

Rest assured that if the Catholics were out advocating nuclear terrorism, the Sistine Chapel would be at the top of my Christmas list. The notion of universal Sharia law is so simultaneously repugnant and intolerable that it must be snuffed out like a birthday candle in a hurricane.
Posted by Zenster 2004-06-05 4:21:07 PM||   2004-06-05 4:21:07 PM|| Front Page Top

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