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2004-06-05 Southeast Asia

Indonesian Muslims told not to vote female as president

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Posted by TS(vice girl) 2004-06-05 12:10:32 PM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I hope that Koran Tempo's right - I prefer apostate Muslims over fundie Muslims anyway ...

Posted by Edward Yee 2004-06-05 12:23:37 PM|| [http://edwardyee.fanworks.net] 2004-06-05 12:23:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Does anyone else get the feeling that fundamentalist Islam is some sort of crude attempt to overcome the historically greater number of women in any given population? The degree of subjugation and oppression embodied by so much of Sharia law and Koranic teaching comes off as a pretty ruthless effort at overcoming the biologically favorable birth rate for females.

At some point all Moslem women will need to realize that their own self interest, nay, even their very safety and survival depend upon them voting against the installation of any Islamists in public office. I'm confident that election rigging and the nearly virtual house arrest many Islamic women live under intentionally interferes with such a possibility.

This is just one more reason to openly declare that all theocratic governments represent a fundamental and intrinsic violation of human rights. For some grand poobah to publicly avow that women are not entitled to elected representation instantly voids any legitimacy they seek to maintain. Islam must quickly realize that it is these sort of oppressive and blatantly unfair interpretations of religious law that give their faith all the authority (and airs) of a school yard bully.

The degree to which fundamentalist Islam manifests as an entirely self-serving and retrogressive form of male-entitlement-parading-as-religious-authority would be downright laughable if women were not being gang raped by edict, having acid thrown in their faces and being beaten half-to-death on such a regular basis.

Between jihadist atrocities and institutionalized misogyny, Islam has reached a crossroads in its viability as an acceptable religion. The torrent of abusive conduct and revolting barbarity incurred in Islam's name is rapidly eroding its last shreds of credibility as a valid religion of any sort. Civilized society must eventually stand up and take notice of this constant outrage against over half the world's population. Nations that refuse to do so, as with disavowing terrorism itself, eventually must be lumped with those who perpetuate such barbarity. Silence is consent and be it through overt participation or tacit approval, any who sustain this continuous affront to humanity must be made to account for it.

Posted by Zenster 2004-06-05 1:08:25 PM|| 2004-06-05 1:08:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Zen - I think the subjugation bears more on the muslim male's self-knowledge of their own true sad-ass pile of insecurity, ineffectiveness, and lack of self control. They truly are the weaker gender in Islam, and have adapted the Koran to keep the women down. Once Islamic women wake up and shed the hijab, Mahmoud's gotta get a real job, quit seething, and help around the house. no honor, no shame

Posted by Frank G 2004-06-05 1:53:42 PM|| 2004-06-05 1:53:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 I think the subjugation bears more on the muslim male's self-knowledge of their own true sad-ass pile of insecurity, ineffectiveness, and lack of self control.

However much this goes against my own tendency to think the best of people, I cannot possibly disagree with you, Frank G. There is a "blame-the-victim" (i.e., women, Jews, Americans and everybody-on-the-planet-but-their-f&%king-selves) mentality that is so prevalent in the Middle East that I can no longer argue this point.

Posted by Zenster 2004-06-05 2:29:26 PM|| 2004-06-05 2:29:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 For balance's sake, let me remind people that Turkey has had a female prime minister in its recent past (Tansu Ciller), when many a Christian country haven't yet had a female prime minister or president. I don't believe France or Germany or Spain or Italy has ever had a female leader for example. I know that Greece and the USA haven't.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-06-05 9:21:00 PM|| 2004-06-05 9:21:00 PM|| Front Page Top

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