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2004-07-23 Home Front: Politix
Los Angeles Times poll shows Kerry, Bush in dead heat
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Posted by Cyber Sarge 2004-07-23 8:00:53 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Jon Carroll polled several of his friends and colleagues...
Posted by mojo  2004-07-23 11:12:13 AM||   2004-07-23 11:12:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Jon Carroll polled several of his friends and colleagues...
Posted by mojo  2004-07-23 11:12:37 AM||   2004-07-23 11:12:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 So much B.S. A general sample across states has no meaning. They need to sample every single state, with a statistically relevent sample in each, as the election is decided by electoral votes and you need to determine how each states electoral votes will be awarded. An intelligent pollster might decide which states are definitely going to one candidate or another and just poll the too close to call states to make a "guess" about the outcome.
Posted by Anonymous 2004-07-23 11:15:00 AM||   2004-07-23 11:15:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I'm interested in the (near) death of polls. Is there any decent research on the effect of cell phones and the general fuck off attitude that seems to have developed amongst the midder class? I don't see how a sample can be qualified now.

Posted by Shipman 2004-07-23 3:28:57 PM||   2004-07-23 3:28:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 My point exactly Shipman. The sound that someone hears when they call my house and ask for "The Man/Wife/Voter/taxpayer of the house" is the phone being hung up. Only those people who have the time or lack any sense of belonging participate in these polls. But if the Al La Times says the race is close you can bet that Bush had a significant lead in their research. I still say that California is still in play and that Bush has GOOD chance of getting a victory here. A trip to Sacramento, LA, and San Diego right before the election might do the trick. Forget SF thats a lost cause.
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2004-07-23 4:09:39 PM||   2004-07-23 4:09:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Ship/CS, I'd love to be called by one of these pollsters, just for the fun of messing with them. However, I've got caller ID and a answering machine. If we don't recognise who's calling, we let the answering machine pickup. About 75% of those calls hang-up as soon as the machine answers. I'll wager they are telemarketers and pollsters. I've heard that pollsters are having a big problem with this as caller ID becomes more common.
Posted by Steve  2004-07-23 4:21:23 PM||   2004-07-23 4:21:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 A nationwide sample size of 1,529 seems awfully small to me. I dont care how 'carefully' the respondants are selected - especially, like people have mentioned, with cell phones, caller-id, skewing their results.
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-07-23 4:25:13 PM||   2004-07-23 4:25:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Forget SF thats a lost cause.

A dirty bomb could go off in the middle of the financial district next week and contaminate the whole downtown area with Al Qaida taking full credit for the act, and SF would STILL vote overwhelmingly for Kerry in November.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-07-23 4:33:58 PM||   2004-07-23 4:33:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Bomb,
People who vote 'for' Kerry are not voting 'For Kerry' as much as they are voting their hate: 'Against Bush'.
All the Democrats trying to 'get out their vote' I've seen around here (Downtown Seattle) always say 'get rid of Bush' and never say 'Elect Kerry'.......

Anyone else notice that?
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-07-23 7:20:19 PM||   2004-07-23 7:20:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Too funny!
The fact that Kerry isn't leading, but in a "dead heat" with Bush in Liberal-heavy LA, according to the LATimes is hilarious!
Remember, this is the paper that predicted that the CA recall wouldn't happen.
Then when it did, they predicted that Ahnold wouldn't win.
Then, they tried to make that happen with those (made up) Arnold sex abuse stories.
Posted by GreatestJeneration  2004-07-23 7:36:02 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com]  2004-07-23 7:36:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Cyber Sarge - I was going to say that if the LA Slimes says Bush and Kerry are in a dead heat, Bush must be way ahead, but you beat me to it! ;-p

I sometimes wonder why the leftist 95% of the media don't worry about losing what little credibility they have left when their lies are exposed in November, but then I remember they have no sense, and less conscience.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-07-23 10:29:04 PM||   2004-07-23 10:29:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Question for all Rantburgians: Has anyone here EVER been polled?
Posted by Brett_the_Quarkian 2004-07-23 10:44:28 PM||   2004-07-23 10:44:28 PM|| Front Page Top

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