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2004-08-17 Iraq-Jordan
11 US soldiers killed in Fallujah
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Posted by one person one vote 2004-08-17 03:51|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Wow! DNC aside, that is the biggest collection of asshats I've ever seen.
Posted by Destro 2004-08-17 4:46:25 AM||   2004-08-17 4:46:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 It's the article so nice, you have to see it twice.
Posted by gromky 2004-08-17 5:20:42 AM||   2004-08-17 5:20:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Well an interesting bunch of ass clowns who by the way tried to own my box when I went to the url. Avoding sites that are .ru is a good practice. Having a hardware firewall and a Linux system prevented any exploit. If someone had the time they might sniff this IP address of the "bunch" posting there. At least some seem to be in Iraq and involved in causing trouble who are posting.
I found it pretty amusing that they claim casulty figures are being fudged. The MSM are like flies on a dead rat on that. There is no way to "fudge" the numbers. The butt bites at that site can't comprehend how so few grunts can kill some many of them while so few of those same grunts get hurt or killed. They are still fighting that 1960 war and we are not, thats why.
Posted by Flamebait93268 2004-08-17 5:44:18 AM||   2004-08-17 5:44:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Any real damage likly to non-hw firewall/Win XP? - just gave 'em a piece of my mind and now fear the consequences for my system.. haven't found anything yet.
Posted by Howard UK 2004-08-17 5:53:07 AM||   2004-08-17 5:53:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I think it was just a random probing by them. I don't advise being "naked" on the internet.
A seperate hardware firewall is always good. I don't know XP. I assume it is another fine MicroSoft product that is full of security holes. But I quit working on MicroSoft computers in 2000 and have not looked back and have not missed anything as far as I can tell. The real problem with a intrigated firewall/packet filter is it sucks up CPU cycles and memory. If you have plenty to spare it's not that bad.
Posted by Flamebait93268 2004-08-17 6:11:45 AM||   2004-08-17 6:11:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Many thanks for an honest opinion FB - hw firewall now on shopping list. Still nothing on the Fallujah incident...
Posted by Howard UK 2004-08-17 6:18:42 AM||   2004-08-17 6:18:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I steer clear of everything in the .ru domain, as well.

If you want to play with fire - you can go to this domain: Look2Me.com. It was the first and only time I have ever been infected with something I could not get rid of - and yep, it exploited my settings in XP perfectly. My settings, not XP. But, because I could not get rid of it, eventually I scraped my machine clean and re-installed from scratch. So check it out if you're a gunslinger. Put it on your firewall block list, otherwise.

HK - You can get a great free firewall (ZoneAlarm) at ZoneLabs. Put it in "learn" mode so you are prompted and decide what pgms have access to the outside world - and which don't. Within the average day you have it working smoothly without having to be a Guru. Just go to the download link and choose ZoneAlarm - it's free for private use.

Then check yourself with the Shields Up! test at Steve Gibson's great site. It will probe your machine and tell you if you're vulnerable. Steve kicks ass!
Posted by .com 2004-08-17 8:43:35 AM||   2004-08-17 8:43:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 I went to all those sites. No problems here.

Then again, I'm using the latest patched Firefox on Linux.
Posted by Oldspook 2004-08-17 8:50:49 AM||   2004-08-17 8:50:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 *golf clap*
Posted by .com 2004-08-17 8:55:26 AM||   2004-08-17 8:55:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 "You can get a great free firewall (ZoneAlarm) at ZoneLabs. Put it in "learn" mode so you are prompted and decide what pgms have access to the outside world - and which don't."

Two months ago I suffered a major virus, adware and spyware infection that proved incurable: I ended up re-formatting my HD and re-installing XP to get rid of it.

Since then, I've done two things which seem to have prevented any recurrance: bought and installed Zonealarm Security Suite (firewall + antivirus + popup ad blocker), and switched to FireFox (www.mozilla.org) for my browser.

Not claiming it's perfect, but it's been 100% effective so far.

BTW, it's absolutely AMAZING how many programs/processes on an XP system attempt to access the internet without your permission; Zonealarm's outgoing firewall changes their attitude from "presumptuous" to "obsequious" in one fell swoop.
Posted by Dave D. 2004-08-17 9:00:17 AM||   2004-08-17 9:00:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 DaveD - The two settings that are, by default, incorrectly set and which make you vulnerable in IE are in the Security Tab / ActiveX controls - they should both be disabled in the Internet Zone:
Download unsigned... and Initialize and script Active Control not marked as safe. That is the simple cure for the bad stuff.

I tried FireFox and found several annoying / odd behaviors - directly related to having multiple copies open, copy & paste functions, and other rather simple things which are essential if you post articles on RB. Otherwise, it seemed fine and, since it does not try to be all things to all people, it was slimmer and faster. But since I do post articles occasionally, those irritated me sufficiently to switch back to IE. If they (or the people who wrote the add-ons I tried) correct these little annoyances, I'll give it another try. I don't give a flip whose browser I use - it just has to work the way I actually want it to. No big deal.
Posted by .com 2004-08-17 9:15:54 AM||   2004-08-17 9:15:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Have Zone Alarm - but doesn't work with IIS, (local web server) - currently using old version of ZA and managing to develop .asp pages without hassle. May make the big jump to Linux soon...
Still no news on Fallujah incident...
Posted by Howard UK 2004-08-17 9:28:50 AM||   2004-08-17 9:28:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Since the topic is Hijackings, RUN YOUR WINDOWS UPDATE. That'll cover most of the worms/trojans out there.

Also, when that little window pops up saying to install something, Click NO.

For the newbies in the audience.
Posted by Anonymous4021 2004-08-17 10:58:38 AM||   2004-08-17 10:58:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Huh... that was interesting. Clumsy use of scripts and largely ineffective, but I think I'll keep them. :)
Would be fun to poke those animals throught he bars a little!
Posted by Asedwich  2004-08-17 11:36:34 AM||   2004-08-17 11:36:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 If you are going to use MicroSoft Internet Exploder the correct answer to any pop up is always no

And Oldspook I am using Firebird 0.6.1 on Mandrake 9.2 Linux. I haven't felt the need to upgrade Mozilla I do the security updates to Mandrake and the packages I have installed. It's very doubtful We could get owned is it. Since by default no external process could download and execute a program as is the case with MicroSoft products.

I still have not heard of any 11 deaths to US forces so it's more propaganda from some losers.
Posted by Flamebait93268 2004-08-17 2:31:01 PM||   2004-08-17 2:31:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Also never, ever, go to strange sites while logged in as 'root' (that's the administrator to you windows folks out there) -- thats just begging for trouble.

Me? I'm running Suse 9.1 with Firefox 0.8 with a Netgear router/firewall. Just downloaded a bunch of updates.
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-08-17 9:52:34 PM||   2004-08-17 9:52:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 When you think about it, our inability to fudge casualty reports is a function of transparancy in government. It is pretty sad that the Pentagon is more transparent than the UN.
Posted by Super Hose 2004-08-18 1:15:35 AM||   2004-08-18 1:15:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 LOL CrazyFool I say go root and get on IRC with no firewall. I have a debebian stable box I keep for such fun. Usually I can last about 8 minutes before being totally owned.
Posted by Flamebait93268 2004-08-18 1:40:40 AM||   2004-08-18 1:40:40 AM|| Front Page Top

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