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2004-08-26 Southeast Asia
Indonesia warns of Bali backlash
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Posted by tipper 2004-08-26 1:46:51 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Why not bomb the F out of Jakarta and warn the Indos not the lecture the Aussies, else it could cause a backlash.
Posted by ed 2004-08-26 9:16:28 AM||   2004-08-26 9:16:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 looks to me like Jhoni Hendrawan cooperated and got a lighter sentence.
Posted by B 2004-08-26 9:20:40 AM||   2004-08-26 9:20:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Indonesia has told Australia not to lecture or pressure Jakarta about dealing with the Bali bombers, warning it could result in a backlash by Islamic fundamentalists.

Translation: Indonesia has no control over its population.

Advice to Aussies: stay far away from that place.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-08-26 10:55:12 AM||   2004-08-26 10:55:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Jhoni Hendrawan, alias Idris, was on Tuesday sentenced to 10 years in prison for involvement in the bombing of the Marriott Hotel in Jakarta last year.

1.) What does "involvement" mean?
2.) How does a 10-year sentence for the killing of a dozen people compare to sentences for similar crimes passed down in other nations?
Posted by jules 187 2004-08-26 11:01:57 AM||   2004-08-26 11:01:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 "Oh yeah, mate? Is that right? Well, how about I come over there with a few of my boys..."
Posted by mojo  2004-08-26 11:52:33 AM||   2004-08-26 11:52:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Why not bomb the F out of Jakarta and warn the Indos not the lecture the Aussies, else it could cause a backlash.
CAVEAT: I think Indonesia is an ally in the WOT, despite the country’s unique (and to the West) often inexplicable social-political gaffes (note: I previously posted about these cultural differences at some length). I also think the MSM tries to capitalize on the ethnocentricity of the West, and the fears of the West, to boost interest in what would otherwise be the rather mundane and tedious administration of justice executed on murderous islamofascists.
The now infamous “10-year sentence” and “Bali bombings acquittal” are a MSM red herring. THERE IS NOTHING UNUSAL GOING ON HERE, AND IT DOES NOT MEAN INDONESIA SUPPORTS ISLAMOFASCISTS. Indonesia, despite its own unique and inexplicable gaffes, is not Malaysia.

Substitute a U.S. Judge and verdict and see how the story plays out. Congress passes a law. The law is applied retroactively against a murderous terrorist involved in a bloodthirsty massacre. On appeal the terrorist prevails because ex post facto laws are unconstitutional. Meanwhile, on a separate charge the terrorist is given a ten year sentence for minor involvement in another terrorist act. The prosecution (in the massacre case) plans to re-file charges under older law that won’t be retroactive with respect to the massacre. EVERYONE EXPECTS THE MURDEROUS TRAITOR WILL EVENTUALY BE EXECUTED FOR HIS CRIMES. Pretty mundane and tedious, isn’t it?

No matter how the MSM spins this tale, no matter how alarming they make these developments seem, THE STORY ISN'T OVER AND THE RI GOVERNMENT ISN'T PLAYING FAVORITES WITH an ISLAMOFASCIST. Despite the alarming title, this story (Bali bomb verdicts start to unravel; login = trufan, password = trufan, HT to bugmenot.com) is quite a bit more balanced and includes the following:
However, an expert on Indonesian law said Australians need not be overly worried that the perpetrators of the Bali attacks would walk free. "People shouldn't be afraid of it. There are plenty of other grounds on which the Indonesians can get these people," said Tim Lindsey, an associate professor at the University of Melbourne Asian Law Centre.

Murder, arson and illegally transporting explosives were more conventional charges they could face which would also carry hefty [editorial note: "hefty," like as in "death"] sentences.

The principle of double jeopardy - not trying someone for the same crime twice - would not apply if the Bali bombers' appeals were accepted, as the verdicts would not be reversed but quashed, Dr Lindsey said. "That means they never existed."
And the RI Government starts fresh so that it can TRY HIM FAIR, HANG (or shoot) HIM FAIR.
Posted by cingold 2004-08-26 1:18:48 PM||   2004-08-26 1:18:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Sounds like a threat to me. What do our Aussie friends say?
Posted by Mikey  2004-08-26 3:39:25 PM||   2004-08-26 3:39:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Cingold called this one months ago.
Posted by Shipman 2004-08-26 4:14:16 PM||   2004-08-26 4:14:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Wait a second, let me rephrase that...
The flesh eating trial-lawyer Cingold called this one months ago. :>
Posted by Shipman 2004-08-26 4:15:39 PM||   2004-08-26 4:15:39 PM|| Front Page Top

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