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2004-10-30 Europe

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Posted by tipper 2004-10-30 01:57|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Heh.

Pass the popcorn.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-10-30 3:05:16 AM|| 2004-10-30 3:05:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 This story has been getting a lot of play. For some reason, whenever I see the name Rocco Buttiglione, I can't help but think of Joey Buttafucco.

Posted by Classical_Liberal 2004-10-30 5:21:17 AM|| 2004-10-30 5:21:17 AM|| Front Page Top

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-10-30 7:50:19 AM|| 2004-10-30 7:50:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Inappropriate for Europe to be united under a banner of 12 stars. It should have been a banner of a crescent moon.

Posted by V is for Victory 2004-10-30 9:47:09 AM|| 2004-10-30 9:47:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Some less-than-organized thoughts I recently had about the current morality-in-politics non-debate:

http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com/nfff/2004/10/todays_bleat_li.html.

Posted by Phil Fraering 2004-10-30 9:53:55 AM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com] 2004-10-30 9:53:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Buttiglione has the right to have whatever moral values he wants, religiously-derived or not. If he think that homosexuality is a sin, that's his right. If he thought that all Jews/Americans/Red Sox fans will burn in hell that'd be his right too.

And the elected Members of the European Parliament have the right to vote him down when they disagree with those supposed "values". Especially when it is felt they will conflict with his job description.

Tell me, would you have no problem whatsoever with a person who believed that the skin-color of black people is a sign of their having fallen in the disfavour of God, taking up a post of chairman in a racial equality board?

How about a person who thought that women were inherently inferior taking up a position concerning gender equality?

But hey I'm sure you people take it as a granted that "personal standards" of politicians are there only for show, and never have anything to do whatsoever with how they perform their jobs.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-10-30 11:31:18 AM|| 2004-10-30 11:31:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Recent research apparently indicating that the female relatives of homosexual men have more offspring, thus supporting the previously considered oxymoronic 'gay gene' hypothesis, perhaps also explains to a degree the success of gay-bashing as a historically successful meme in otherwise relatively enlightened and liberal societies. Suppressing homosexual behaviour and pressuring gay men into heterosexual relationships helps maintain 'gayness' in a society and may also, further, boost group fertility. It's fairly obvious that homophobia will work to sustain homosexuality in a population (if you accept that homosexuality is genetic, or that is it is in part determined by genetic factors) by artificially increasing the reproductive success of gay individuals. Has it also boosted societies' successes by helping them outbreed their more hetero/homo relaxed neighbours?

/Peshawar (and just my two cents)

Posted by Bulldog 2004-10-30 1:48:16 PM|| 2004-10-30 1:48:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I suppose just having gay individuals breed at all is going to have a bigger impact on population growth than female relatives of gay men having a slightly increased fertility rate, however that factor alone would tend to drive a 'perfectly' homophobic society to complete male homosexuality in n generations, barring the influence of other factors influencing hetero/homo male reproductive success. A degree of tolerance of homosexual behaviour might create a hetero/homo balance such as we see in most of the world today.

/Peshawar

Posted by Bulldog 2004-10-30 1:54:37 PM|| 2004-10-30 1:54:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 What's "Peshawar"? I've seen the reference a couple times before, but I don't get it.

Also, the idea was never "oxymoronic", except to those who had a very limited view of biology. The idea of a male-affecting genetic combination passing through female lines, is very old. I remember mentioning it in Rantburg itself many months ago when people objected to the idea of homosexuality being genetic back then -- and my own knowledge of biology is strictly highschool-level.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-10-30 2:08:49 PM|| 2004-10-30 2:08:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 What's "Peshawar"? I've seen the reference a couple times before, but I don't get it

slang phrase adapted to RB - by LH, IIRC ...as in: what's that got to do with the price of AK47's in Peshawar?

Posted by Frank G 2004-10-30 2:41:48 PM|| 2004-10-30 2:41:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Also, the idea was never "oxymoronic", except to those who had a very limited view of biology. The idea of a male-affecting genetic combination passing through female lines, is very old. I remember mentioning it in Rantburg itself many months ago when people objected to the idea of homosexuality being genetic back then -- and my own knowledge of biology is strictly highschool-level.

Posted by Dr Science 2004-10-30 8:28:17 PM|| 2004-10-30 8:28:17 PM|| Front Page Top

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