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2004-11-14 -Short Attention Span Theater-

Wu-Tang Clan Founder ODB Now Stiffie (Natural Causes, No Doubt)

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Posted by .com 2004-11-14 03:53|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 good riddance to bad rubbish .
Rap sucks and so do the crappy tracksuits and slanted baseball caps .

As we say in Britain , 'what a chav bastard'

Posted by MacNails 2004-11-14 5:02:57 AM|| 2004-11-14 5:02:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Russell Jones, in terms of what the news has stated thus far died from heart failure.

In terms of 'rap sucks'. If your including all hip hop/rap in that comment I disagree and further more 'what really sucks' is the majority of red-neck-country music, as we say in NYC.

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-14 5:33:23 AM|| 2004-11-14 5:33:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Good point Mark , but I am not into hick red neck tripe either . Give me music written properly and played well , and not by a bunch of out of tune , crotch grabbing , limp walking , gang bangers anyday :)

Posted by MacNails 2004-11-14 5:42:38 AM|| 2004-11-14 5:42:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 You a Cliff Richard man, McNails? ;)

Posted by Bulldog 2004-11-14 6:09:42 AM|| 2004-11-14 6:09:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Mac, how about some real smooth jazz with lush orchestral accompaniment?

Cheers!

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-14 6:12:00 AM|| 2004-11-14 6:12:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 LOL . I guess each to their own .

Very amusing .. I think I'll keep my musical preferences under 'raps' for now . In the process of dissing something , i got owned :)))

Posted by MacNails 2004-11-14 6:45:11 AM|| 2004-11-14 6:45:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 If your including all hip hop/rap in that comment I disagree and further more 'what really sucks' is the majority of red-neck-country music, as we say in NYC

Guess you have to listen to it to appreciate it, huh? :o)

Posted by badanov 2004-11-14 6:56:56 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif] 2004-11-14 6:56:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 In a truly funny movie chock-full of great one-liners, not to mention Halle Berry playing an exotic dancer, there is a priceless reference to "rap music" that must be seen in context to get the full effect. Check it out sometime, Mark. You won't be disappointed in the movie, I assure you, lol!

Posted by .com 2004-11-14 7:28:09 AM|| 2004-11-14 7:28:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Best discription I heard of for rap"It is not music,good poetry(debatable),but not music".After all it does not take a great deal of talent to scratch hell out of an old LP.C&W music,I spent a great deal of my youth hearing my parent's brand of C&W.(Conway Twitty,Loreta Lynn,Ray Oberson, etc.)I got so sick and tired of hearing a bunch of whinning crying rednecks sing about how horrible life was.

Posted by raptor 2004-11-14 8:41:56 AM|| 2004-11-14 8:41:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 ..In the late 90s I was finishing up my BA at University of South Carolina, and had to take a music appreciation class. Our final was to take a piece of music and analyze it with the methods we'd been taught in the class. We could use any song we wanted, but had to play it for the class and get the instructor's okay.
Mine was 'Jolly Roger' off the Independence Day soundtrack, and it went over quite well. The next one played some godawful piece by (as it turned out)Wu-Tang Clan. The instructor listened politely, and when it was over, looked the kid dead in the eye and said, "Mr. So-and-so, that is a remarkable piece. However, it is not music by even the most generous definitions. Please select and other piece by our next meeting."
The punch line is that about 7 or 8 other people declined to play their pieces that evening and asked if they might pick new ones as well.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-11-14 12:58:27 PM|| 2004-11-14 12:58:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 After all it does not take a great deal of talent to scratch hell out of an old LP.C&W music,I spent a great deal of my youth hearing my parent's brand of C&W.(Conway Twitty,Loreta Lynn,Ray Oberson, etc.)I got so sick and tired of hearing a bunch of whinning crying rednecks sing about how horrible life was.

LOL, raptor.

Maybe it's time to start listening to it again. Country has changed remarkably in just the last 10 years. Much more emotional, far less woe is me crap. It ain't your Daddy's twang no more. :o)

Now, for my part, I was raised as part of the Woodstock generation, but almost always listen to country music now. I was raised ( and still am ) a Door's fan, can name every album they ever cut, can sing every song they released. I still from time to time listen to alternative rock music, but it's country all the way for me. And in Oklahoma City we have one of the first country oldies station playing country music dating back to the 50s. I promise you it sounds even better now than it did then when I wasn't country, but I prefer the new country even more.

Come on back, raptor. Join the more sophisticated crowd listening to country music.

Posted by badanov 2004-11-14 1:07:40 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-11-14 1:07:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Powerline takes apart ODB's "legacy"

Posted by Frank G 2004-11-14 1:30:03 PM|| 2004-11-14 1:30:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 What Badanov said. Raptor,try WDVX.com for the best country music around. And Powerlines obit of "Mr Bastard" is a must.

Posted by Grunter 2004-11-14 2:09:11 PM|| 2004-11-14 2:09:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 So, Mark, have you heard "Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy", the first rap C&W song?

Posted by Angie Schultz 2004-11-14 2:56:20 PM|| [http://darkblogules.blogspot.com] 2004-11-14 2:56:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 After all it does not take a great deal of talent to scratch hell out of an old LP.

Perhaps not, but it does require some exceptionally refined skills to beat-match and seamlessly seque between rock & roll and classical guitar (which I have seen done).

Having gone to concerts by Digital Underground, Queen Latifah, Yellow Man, Eek A Mouse and many other acts, I can confidently say that while there is some articulate and morally well-reasoned material in the genre, a majority of rap glorifies thug life, violence against women, conspicuous consumption and predatory behavior. For those reasons alone, it strikes me as pretty useless stuff.

I have always felt that rap was entertainment for people incapable of non-linear thought. As to C&W, give me Junior Brown any day, as opposed to most of the dreck spewn under that category.

I write lyrics, compose, and perform on several instruments in jazz, blues, classical, rock & roll, baroque, R&B plus a few other styles. I've played in several bands and have appeared on radio, television and before large audiences. The music industry does not promote you on the basis of what you know but who you know. That alone is responsible for 90% of the crap being passed off as talent. Chalk up another 5% to artificially engineered acts like In-Synch or Back Street Boys and other such drivel. This doesn't leave much room for quality.

Throughout nearly all categories of popular art a majority of it is pretty trashy. Think: Thomas Kincaide. The Iceberg Theorem states that 90% of a given prospect is not in view. The Generalized Iceberg Theorem states that 90% of everything is shit.

Posted by Zenster 2004-11-14 5:02:38 PM|| 2004-11-14 5:02:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 .Com, I have not seen The Last Boy Scout but with Bruce Willis & Halle

Berry, rare stunning beauty. I must see it. One of the best Bruce Willis movies I've saw at the movies & whenever it runs on cable, is Die Hard-With a Vengeance, with a great co-staring cast, Samuel L. Jackson, Jeremy Irons, Graham Greene, among fine actors.

Raptor, Great discription! "a bunch of whinning crying rednecks sing about how horrible life was.

(clean up America, flush them.)

Yo, everyone is really rolling on this topic lol
Boris do you like Cossack blues?

Angie Schultz. I must say the song you mentioned slipped right by me. Who sings it? Tractor Truck Tom & the Dip Sticks?

Zenster, well stated overview. In smooth jazz do you like any of these, Norman Brown, Kim Walters, Chuck Loeb, Rick Braun, Bobby Lyle, Boney James, Dave Koz, Brian Culbertson, Lalah Hathaway, Steve Cole, Wayman Tisdale, Peter White, or some of the greats from the past such as Art Blakey, Horace Silver, Milt Jackson, Oscar Peterson, Mel TormÃ©, Chick Webb, Fletcher Henderson, Coleman Hawkins, Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Art Tatum. Miss Ella & so many more in that style.

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-14 8:21:07 PM|| 2004-11-14 8:21:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Angie Schultz, you have some real fine published work on the web. Bravo!

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-14 8:30:19 PM|| 2004-11-14 8:30:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Who sings it? Tractor Truck Tom & the Dip Sticks?

According to Google, it's "Big and Rich". No clue who that is. I can't stand the song, but it was only after hearing it several times that it occurred to me it was a rap song. Or rap-ish, anyway.

Angie Schultz, you have some real fine published work on the web. Bravo!

Well, er, thanks, I guess. Are you sure you have the right Angie Schultz?

Posted by Angie Schultz 2004-11-14 9:02:16 PM|| [http://darkblogules.blogspot.com] 2004-11-14 9:02:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Angie. I was kidding about the Dip Sticks lol

I thought your some of the postings in the link were written by you. I like the state break down chart in 'Religious Extremism in America' Anyway, good postings!

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-14 9:26:59 PM|| 2004-11-14 9:26:59 PM|| Front Page Top

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