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2004-11-22 Britain
Civil orders 'will curb terrorism'
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Posted by Bulldog 2004-11-22 4:38:26 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 This sounds similar to the USs use of "injuctions" against gangs. You enjoin the individuals who make up the support network in such a way that almost anything they do to maintain the network, no matter how seemingly benign, becomes a violation of the court order. In the US, individuals can be barred from neighborhoods, from using cell phones, from associating with named others, from wearing certain kinds of clothes, etc. Such injunctions can be very large. And, since violation is treated as "contempt of court", there is no jury requirement--the trial is immediate, and before the judge who issued the order in the first place--making it hard as hell to get out of.
Posted by Anonymoose 2004-11-22 10:23:03 AM||   2004-11-22 10:23:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Anonymoose, where is this precedent? I'd like to hear examples before I sign on to the concept, since you make it rather appealing-sounding.
Posted by Crereper Thomomble7323 2004-11-22 10:28:27 AM||   2004-11-22 10:28:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Number of people involved in gangs: high
Number of people involved in terrorism: very low

Potential danger to the public of one gang member ignoring a court order: low
Potential danger to the public of one terrorist ignoring a court order: very high

Few gang members are actively engaged in murderous activity, whereas all Islamist terrorist group members are. If it suspected that an individual is involved in terrorism in any way, and it isn't worthwhile placing them under surveillance, the first action should be to lock them up. Someone involved in financing terrorism's crime is analogous to that of someone who has hired a hitman.
Posted by Glum T Roll  2004-11-22 10:35:41 AM||   2004-11-22 10:35:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Just tattoo "jihadi" on their foreheads and make them wear shirts with bull's-eyes front and back. The rest will take care of itself.
Posted by mojo  2004-11-22 2:54:50 PM||   2004-11-22 2:54:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Hell, maybe this is the path that Johna-thon Edwards can take to build up security street cred.
Posted by Shipman 2004-11-22 5:33:20 PM||   2004-11-22 5:33:20 PM|| Front Page Top

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