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2005-02-25 Home Front: Economy
US economy grew strongly while Kyoto signatories stagnate (my spin)
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Posted by phil_b 2005-02-25 09:17|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I have to ask. Is Page 0 a feature or a bug?
Posted by phil_b 2005-02-25 9:35:52 AM||   2005-02-25 9:35:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 It's like an imaginary page, it's needed to resolve irrational page numbers.
Posted by Shipman 2005-02-25 1:10:13 PM||   2005-02-25 1:10:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 What better place for Kyoto Treaty news that the irrational page?

My personal take is that Kyoto has had no economic effect because no one, not even it's biggest advocates and whiners, have actually done anything to implement it.
Posted by SteveS 2005-02-25 1:41:42 PM||   2005-02-25 1:41:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 there is no such thing as zero.
Posted by 2b 2005-02-25 1:44:28 PM||   2005-02-25 1:44:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 As Lucy said to Charlie Brown (advice for five cents), "x is almost always equal to eleven".
There, that's my math input.
Posted by Tom 2005-02-25 1:49:45 PM||   2005-02-25 1:49:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Shipman -It's like an imaginary page, it's needed to resolve irrational page numbers.

Actually, you have an interesting idea...

What we need is a page "Square Root of a Negative 1"

Imaginery number page for articles on enemy people ranging from the physically missing Osama, to the mentally missing Michael Moore...
Posted by BigEd 2005-02-25 2:00:56 PM||   2005-02-25 2:00:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 What we need is a page "Square Root of a Negative 1"

Just call it "j".
Posted by Robert Crawford  2005-02-25 2:05:57 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-02-25 2:05:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Page i
Posted by Frank G  2005-02-25 2:06:00 PM||   2005-02-25 2:06:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 There's at least one exception I'm aware of: the UK. The UK is meeting its Kyoto targets and has still greatly outperformed the Eurozone economies which are stagnating despite not meeting their Kyoto obligations. I'd hesitate to draw a correlation between Kyoto and economic performance - I'd say Kyoto is more like an irrelevance (both environmentally and economically). It's economically crippling domestic politics which prevent growth.
Posted by Bulldog  2005-02-25 2:14:16 PM||   2005-02-25 2:14:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#10  i x t-n oo
Posted by Sobiesky 2005-02-25 2:26:09 PM||   2005-02-25 2:26:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Page 0 is a bug -- I've reported it to Fred, and he'll track it down. I've seen it a couple times.

Make sure, if you want a post to appear on page 3, that you select the 'non-WoT' option.
Posted by Steve White  2005-02-25 4:33:16 PM||   2005-02-25 4:33:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Bulldog, the UK's energy consumption has steadily increased since 1990. The UK achieved Kyoto compliance by almost eliminating coal consumption and greatly reducing heavy industry. Energy consumption will continue to increase while there is little room left in the two trends that reduced carbon emissions. The UK hasn't got a hope in hell of meeting its Kyoto targets by 2012 but will doubtless drive itself into recession trying.
Posted by phil_b 2005-02-25 7:03:57 PM||   2005-02-25 7:03:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 This goes in the Classics.
Posted by Korora  2005-02-25 7:11:32 PM|| [http://basementburrow.blogspot.com]  2005-02-25 7:11:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 That doesn't prove Kyoto's not irrelevant. The Eurozone states haven't slumped through selflessly striving to implement Kyoto at the expense of their economies - far from it; they're just about ignoring the whole charade. They've slumped because they're commiting suicide socio-politically.
Posted by Bulldog  2005-02-25 7:12:37 PM||   2005-02-25 7:12:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 The UK achieved Kyoto compliance by almost eliminating coal consumption and greatly reducing heavy industry.

The way you write that makes both moves sound i) recent developments (in fact both were in progress well before - decades before - Kyoto) and ii) deliberate (economic processes at work - like plate tectonics: slow, natural and unstoppable). Neither resulted from policies undertaken by the Government in response to Kyoto.
Posted by Bulldog  2005-02-25 7:18:44 PM||   2005-02-25 7:18:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 It's no small irony that the UK can thank Maggie T for its current Kyoto compliance.
Posted by phil_b 2005-02-25 7:49:42 PM||   2005-02-25 7:49:42 PM|| Front Page Top

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