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2005-04-13 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by Fred 2005-04-13 00:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [11 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "Foreign insurgent" is an oxymoron. If you are willing to apply the term "insurgents" it can only apply to the inhabitants of an occupied country. You cannot travel to another country and be an "insurgent" there.

Posted by True German Ally 2005-04-13 12:34:59 AM|| 2005-04-13 12:34:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 How about fascists? Whether secular (ba'athist) or religious, they all share a fascination with the death-cult and have as their preeminent goal the slaughter of Iraqi democrats and their protectors.

Posted by thibaud (aka lex) 2005-04-13 1:25:19 AM|| 2005-04-13 1:25:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 You are quite right TGA, "Foreign insurgent" would qualify as an oxymoron.

Posted by phil_b 2005-04-13 2:21:31 AM|| 2005-04-13 2:21:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I would call them "foreign unfreedom brigades."

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-04-13 2:23:55 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-04-13 2:23:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I would suggest, consider the source is ArabNews, that this is a small slip of the, er, keyboard - it is mortar between the bricks of the "Muslim First" Law. Just another small proof of the We, Us, Our, Ummah, Dumbah, Rama-Lama-Ding-Dong, fuck you infidels that is the Muzzy Mindset and Rule #1 in the Muzzy Behavioral Style Guide.

Posted by .com 2005-04-13 2:29:43 AM|| 2005-04-13 2:29:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 A wasted insurgent (murderous terrorist) is a good insurgent.

Posted by sea cruise 2005-04-13 3:36:00 AM|| 2005-04-13 3:36:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I would call them "bad guys," which under ideal circumstances is a synonym for "dead guys."

Speaking of idealism . . . .

Posted by Mike 2005-04-13 6:23:01 AM|| 2005-04-13 6:23:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Actually you could call them 'foreign insurgents' if you reasoned that all Islam should be under the rule of the Caliph who rules over an empire under Sharia. Thus any muslim fighting a non-Caliph govt in the lands of Submission is an insurgent. Of course that would make Egyptian terrorists, Paleoterrorists, etc. also insurgents

Posted by mhw 2005-04-13 8:03:09 AM|| 2005-04-13 8:03:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 mhw

What do you call Sunni "insurgents" who mass murder Shi'ites with car bombs and bombs in Shia mosques? How would Muhammad the head chopper come down on this intra Muslim dispute?

Posted by sea cruise 2005-04-13 8:22:10 AM|| 2005-04-13 8:22:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 How about just a$%holes.Can't call'em pricks,as an ex-girlfriend use to say a prick is the best part of a man.

Posted by raptor 2005-04-13 8:39:47 AM|| 2005-04-13 8:39:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 you could make them non-foreign even without invoking caliphate/umma - you could invoke the grand arab nation beloved of arab nationalists, of both Baathist and Nasserite varieties - while actual state mergers have generally failed, the idea that everyone unites against the outsider survived, kinda. Dont think the Shiite any Iraq give that thing the time of day, but then it was always more popular among Sunnis, despite its avowed secularism.

Alternatively, since many are from Syria and Jordan, they could invoke Greater Syria, which at some points was extended to include the entire fertile crescent. See Daniel Pipes.

But I agree, the gunnies themselves are probably thinking Caliphate more than the above secular ideologies. Not sure about the Arab News though.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2005-04-13 9:27:01 AM|| 2005-04-13 9:27:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 How would Muhammad the head chopper come down on this intra Muslim dispute?

Probably against the Shiites. There are muslims, and then there are Muslims.

Posted by Pappy 2005-04-13 10:49:21 AM|| 2005-04-13 10:49:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 How 'bout 'bunch of morons who are utterly convinced we still live in the 12th century'.

Posted by Ol_Dirty_American 2005-04-13 11:15:59 AM|| 2005-04-13 11:15:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 on second thought kill the bunch of part :)

Posted by Ol_Dirty_American 2005-04-13 11:18:53 AM|| 2005-04-13 11:18:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 Actually I think if Mohamet were alive today he might be too immersed in porn to be bothered with religion. However, the 'right thinking Caliphs' were either Sunni or proto-Sunni or Sunni leaning (although before the full development of the Salafist judicial school, of which Wahabiism is sort of an offshoot).

Posted by mhw 2005-04-13 3:40:44 PM|| 2005-04-13 3:40:44 PM|| Front Page Top

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