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2005-04-26 Iraq-Jordan

Rebuttal to NYT article about Marines and Armored Vehicles

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Posted by Deacon Blues 2005-04-26 8:13:49 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Thanks Deacon, I knew there was more to the story than what the Times reported.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2005-04-26 10:42:38 AM|| 2005-04-26 10:42:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 What the NYT story from yesterday really tells you is that the news coming of Iraq today is so positive that the NYT has to recycle stories from a year ago to make things look bad.

You just know what the NYT's lead article on April 30 is going to be: "Thirty Years After the Fall of Saigon, Eerie Similarities Exist in Iraq."

Posted by Matt 2005-04-26 11:45:48 AM|| 2005-04-26 11:45:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 "Thirty Years After the Fall of Saigon, Eerie Similarities Exist in Iraq."

Reuters beat the NY Times to it, Matt:

Echoes of Iraq Ring Through Vietnam
HO CHI MINH CITY (Reuters) - Military strategists will be debating for years the similarities and differences of the U.S. wars in Vietnam and Iraq but on the ground in Vietnam there is no argument -- Baghdad was a mistake, a big one.
From Diem Bien Phu, where Vietnamese communists also beat the French in colonial times; to My Lai, site of the Vietnam War's worst atrocity; to the tank commander who smashed down the gates of Saigon's presidential palace, there is genuine bewilderment at U.S. actions in Iraq.

"Didn't the Americans learn anything from Vietnam?" asks tour guide Pham Phu Bang, 76, who fought both the French at Diem Bien Phu and the Americans from 1966 to 1968, including taking part in the 1968 Tet offensive on then Saigon.
"Why are they in Iraq? It's the same."

Posted by Steve 2005-04-26 12:44:23 PM|| 2005-04-26 12:44:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Many believe Saddam lost the war and power simply because he did not have his own people on his side to stand up to the U.S. invasion as the Vietnamese did.

Yeah, but that's such a minor point so why even bring it up...

Posted by tu3031 2005-04-26 1:12:59 PM|| 2005-04-26 1:12:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Damn, Rooters is quick off the mark. The NYT is going to have to go to its fallback article: "In Blow to Rumsfeld, Marines Surrender at Wake Island."

Posted by Matt 2005-04-26 1:16:19 PM|| 2005-04-26 1:16:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Or alternatively: "Rumsfeld Failed To Anticipate Ardennes Offensive"

by Edward Wong

"Sources close to the beleaguered Secretary of Defense have told the Times that Mr. Rumsfeld was caught entirely unprepared for Germany's armored strike, despite having twelve full years of life experience at the time. Said one: 'Yeah, Donnie thought that Hitler was whipped, just like we all did. I dunno where he gets off being SecDef.' As morale dropped sharply, US soldiers were repeatedly heard to complain about the superior armor of the insurgent Panther and Tiger tanks. Rumsfeld, apparently, had no answer, other than an irrational confidence in eventual US 'victory'...."

Posted by Matt 2005-04-26 1:40:34 PM|| 2005-04-26 1:40:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 "Lincoln raps Rumsfeld inability to compromise"

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-26 1:51:48 PM|| 2005-04-26 1:51:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 to My Lai, site of the Vietnam War's worst atrocity

Bullshit. I bet you could find a thousand worse, but committed by the Communists.

Of course, to a reporter, nothing a Communist (or Islamist) does is an atrocity, right?

Posted by Robert Crawford 2005-04-26 2:54:49 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-04-26 2:54:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Superor laughs Matt!

Posted by Shipman 2005-04-26 4:29:23 PM|| 2005-04-26 4:29:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Agreed, Ship. Matt is rockin' & rollin' today, lol!

"Donnie", heh heh.

Posted by .com 2005-04-26 4:34:14 PM|| 2005-04-26 4:34:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Thank you, thank you.

Posted by Matt 2005-04-26 5:10:26 PM|| 2005-04-26 5:10:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 :-) I bow

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-26 5:23:19 PM|| 2005-04-26 5:23:19 PM|| Front Page Top

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